its not what some of you new guys might think. they dont hang in front of the pork store like you see on tv. they dont pull up in caddy's and flaunt there pinkie ring. they dont walk in around fila velour suits. most have real legitimate jobs. insurance, mortgages, construction. youd be surprised. those old days of playing pinochle at the social club all day are over. i see all these posts about the dumbest things. im new here myself but looking at some old threads and new ones there is a big difference in legitimate topics. just sayin, its not like you see in the movies.