Have I been sarcastic to you? Na' so Id appreciate the same in return, 55th was a mere example corresponding with the thread in general, if I could find what I was looking for I woulda' gladly shared that them two the only ones I could post off the top. Forgot which clique it was but they do have black members you should know not to believe most of what the media puts out there though. Not all pc up in prison though the reason I even posted the second one was to prove that some of them actually stand tall even in prison dude was one of them that's doing a l and isn't in pc for his own safety. It's not that common but it's there, if I could remember which clique of them Florence cats it was that has a few black dudes that might change in prison but on a street level it's there you don't have to take my word for it I know Southerners merely said it how it was told to me I'll just leave it at that.