Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: antimafia
Sonny:

If you go through the news articles about Gallo's pending deportation, you will indeed read that Gallo realized that deportation was inevitable and that he would not fight it. But his lawyer(s) filed a motion, five days after he left Canada, to return. One can't dispute the facts: Gallo completely changed his tune, and who knows whether this was his plan all along?


I also think that Gallo wants to return to Canada. But I also think that he took the opportunity to leave Canada for Italy for his own safety. With opportunity I mean that he might have used his deportation case as an excuse to leave Canada in order to not lose face. His lawyer filling the motion to return might or might not be for the same reason.

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How close was Arcuri Sr.'s relationship with Sciara? Arcuri Sr. seems to have had no problem being given Ital Gelati through the largesse of Nick Rizzuto Sr.


Criminals are an opportunistic breed. He might have accepted the spoils for his own benefit, while being resentful at the same time.

It is still difficult for me to ingore the stricking similarity between Rocco Violi's murder and that of Rizzuto, Sr.

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Will Vito himself, according to tradition, seek out and kill the gunmen who killed Nick Jr., Paolo Renda, and Nick Sr.? I honestly don't think Vito will have the opportunity because I don't see him surviving very long after he gets out of prison.


I agree that Vito will be marked when he gets out. I have no doubt that some will try to have him killed the moment he sets foot in Montreal. Whether they will succeed we may find out in the coming months.

I try to look at it from a logical standpoint: if Vito is as smart as I think he is, he will try his best to protect himself. If he surrounds himself with bodyguards, I don't see his rivals being able to get close to him easily. This is not a Chuck Norris movie. Even one bodyguard can make it quite difficult to kill a target. Just look at Raynald Desjardins' failed murder attempt.


Sonny:

1. I'm not sure what you are arguing about Gallo's deportation or about his thought process. I think you're making the mistake of interpreting his deportation as a tool he had, at his disposal, that could be shaped or bent to serve him. Gallo's case has a relatively long history. Back in June 2009, one newspaper article mentioned Gallo "is begging the Canadian government not to deport him, and instead 'extend a second welcome,' like the one he received when arriving here from Italy at age nine."

If you're arguing Gallo chose not to fight his deportation any longer because he wanted to be deported as soon as possible on account of his fears for safety, this is still hard to jibe with the filing of a motion to return to Canada five days after being deported. I'm also not entirely sure Gallo had any opportunities left to legally stall his deportation. Are you aware of any further chances he had?

2. Instead of focusing on Domenico Arcuri Sr. as someone who has the mindset of a generic mafioso, focus on him as someone who is from Cattolica Eraclea and may have strong ties to the Cammalleris in the Manno-Rizzuto-Cammalleri clan, and whose sons have ties to Gerlando Sciascia's son and Giuseppe Lo Presti's son. Bear in mind that Arcuri Sr. has been pegged as a first cousin or brother to Giacinto Arcuri of Toronto and that the latter may have been a suspect, along with Vito Rizzuto's father-in-law, in the 1955 murder of Giuseppe Spagnolo back in Cattolica Eraclea. I think you've seen the following before:



3. Even I have come to view the manner in which Nick Sr. was killed as eerily similar to how Rocco Violi was killed, given I have been quite quite dismissive of the Calabrians-taking-over-Montreal-again theories floating around. Nevertheless, I like to remind people that Rocco Violi survived a first murder attempt, that Nick Rizzuto Sr. was killed in his home because he was apparently reluctant to leave the house (where else would the sniper have a chance at a shot?), and that some experts like Lee Lamothe, who seemed to support the theory of Violi's sons exacting revenge, came up with a questionable conclusion when he stated that the murder of Nick Rizzuto Jr. was "symbolic," given the difficulty of killing Vito, who was in jail.