Originally Posted By: Smurph
See...this is a perfect example of what frustrates me about what you present as fact. John Stanfa was never "made". Being "made" is an American mafia tradition. Stanfa came directly from Sicily and had a very tied in network when he arrived. He immediately became Angelo Bruno's driver and advisor. He didnt need to be "made".

Ralph Natalee himself says that he "made himself". Ralph Natalee is an absolute loser. Bruno and Stanfa hated him. The way he got involved was that while serving time for his SEOOND SERIES OR NAROTICS CHARGES he met Joey Merlino who was doing a bid related to a hijacking gone bad. Natalee and Merlino became friends and made plans for when they got out. Nobody wanted Natalee to have any responsibility. His narcotics dealing kept him from ever even being considered. As it was he never excercised any real power anyway. Merlino was always the real boss and Natalee the lightning rod.

Natalee quickly caught a third set of narcotics charges and then flipped. The first boss of a commission sitting family to do so.

Natalee and Merlino were never commission approved either incidentally. Stanfa wasthe last commissioned Bruno family boss but he never really held power either because the Young Turks were at war with them and the line and rank in Philly saw the Sicilian as an interloper and sidgey.

Merlino was made. The current acting street boss Steven Mazzone never was.

Can you please cite some credible sources to support your claim? Thanks brother.


First, being "made" did not originate in the U.S. And a "made guy" is recognized as such on both sides.

Second, the Commission in New York wasn't functioning on the same level as it had before Bruno was killed and before the Commission case. The Gambinos supported Stanfa, while the Genovese supported the Merlino faction. Merlino was recognized as the acting boss but never became the official boss. Ligambi is made and was recognized as the official boss by New York.

Third, Natale was also made in a ceremony conducted by Joey Merlino. There is no rule that only an official boss, recognized by the Commission, can perform ceremonies or make guys. One can argue the case of whether Ron Previte was really made, since he never went through the ceremony, but you can't argue about Natale.

Fourth, according to all the sources I'm aware of, indictments, George Anastasia, etc., Steven Mazzone is also made.

Enough of the rewriting history.


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