But what im saying is on the street in this day and age when it comes down to it they are on the same level as most other groups
i dont think so, they are still above the others since more sophisticated and entrenched on the contrary of other groups that are involved in petty crimes only they have still deals (although much less than the past) in unions, waste disposal, buildings,transports, ports, fruit and fishes markets, politics etc. i think they are still above the others by far, they were not reduced at the same level of eurasian, balkan groups or street gangs
unions, waste disposal and the others you listed dont for most part bring them into any contact with other groups, the only people that go after them in those rackets are law enforcement. Im talking in terms of their relations with other gangs and also their place in the drug trade.
