some good points and although they would probably never fight this is a hypothetical situation. also for every full patch member of a biker gang there are many more prospects and hang-arounds just as the mob has associates. when the mob hires other groups out for muscle its for mutual benifit as in montreal. not trying to argue that the ha was more influential in montreal, as they have been decimated recently but to think that the rizzutos would give orders and the ha would follow blindly doesnt fly with me. working together is better for everyone which is why groups prefer to work together. bikers are very independent by nature and to think that any group would dictate to them what to do and not expect serious blowback just inst viable. i enjoyed the 6th family but christ that book made it seem like the rizzutos were the most powerful criminal org on earth so i tend to take all the hype with a grain of salt.