Originally Posted By: BridgeportVet
so your basing size/power/activity on indictments & what you read on the internet? Sorry, those things don't happen anymore in Chicago, the guys here possess functioning brains. No need to war with each other any more like savages. NY members are out in the open, they're still performing grimy, menial, street-level tasks. Not that the Outfit aren't, but we are just more discreet/unassuming about our business here.

As far as size goes, the Outfit is right in between the Genovese & Gambino families.

But I digress, this is EXACTLY what the Outfit want people to believe, and it is upsetting because people (even law enforcement at some level) buy into the myth that the Outfit is somehow inactive/crippled. It's simply not true.


Sorry, man, but all these talking points you're using have already been used by a legion of people long before you.

You living in Chicago doesn't necessarily mean anything. And, frankly, nobody really cares.

You being 100% Sicilian doesn't necessarily mean anything. And, frankly, nobody cares.

And that "indictments doesn't apply to us" crap doesn't fly. Others have attempted to use that same excuse to claim that families from New Orleans to Detroit to San Francisco are still going strong.

in recent cases both the Genovese and Gambino families were each estimated to have about 200 made members. The Outfit, in the recent "Family Secrets" case, was said to have 28. And estimates in other recent articles haven't gone above 50.

And why are you phrasing it as, "we are just more discreet/unassuming about our business here?" You couldn't come off as more of a fanboy rooting for the hometown crime family if you tried.


Last edited by IvyLeague; 01/18/12 05:37 AM.

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