Originally Posted By: Ivan
So you don't think the two of them flipping has the potential to reduce the Patriarcas to the handful-of-soldiers-left-glorified-crew status?

Really?
They would do that much damage?
I'm with you on Providence, but even Boston?

Man, who are these guys?!?

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
What do you mean no busts?

I mean with no MAJOR busts, few guys once in a while...you know, nothing historical.
How long do you give Philly & New England before they turn into Detroit?
And how long until Detroit turns into KC?

Oh, btw, I do consider Buffalo already a Kansas City.

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
By the time New England and Philadelphia become like Detroit and Buffalo are now, Detroit and Buffalo will be like Kansas City.

Here's a question:

How can Detroit turn into KC if they keep being so low-key and not getting involved in nothing super serious besides gambling-shy-extortion and few legit biz?

I mean, the FBI managed to get rid of many of these families' members due to their involvment in racketeering, murders, bombings, violent power struggles, witness intimidation etc...

The Feds will not have enough stuff to put them away for 30 yrs like they used to (less long sentences, less rats).

Same thing with Philly.

New England had drugs involved (Rossetti) so it's different.