It is very obvious that myself, you and PhatMatress have completely different thoughts of what a "tough mother fucker" is and thats ok. It is painfully obvious that the extensiveness of your "toughness" within yourself does not go beyond your keyboard. Basically, you have no idea what your talking about. Go back and look at my original post, as I said being tough is not winning every fight you get into, thats skill. In fact, Mike Tyson said he lost 60 percent of the street fights he got into outside the ring because they guys he was fighting were AND I QUOTE "much tougher in all areas than I was, I was really just a pathetic scared person out of the ring" but yet when he got into the ring he killed people, again my friend THAT IS SKILL.

What I am saying this: Never once did I say that we was tough simply because he beat the shit out of Vic Amuso, I said he beat the shit out of Vic Amuso fully knowing the consequences that it could bring, like death, and he did it anyway. Beating up a 65 year old man does not make you tough, you are correct. Beating up a 65 year old man who happens to be the sitting boss of the Lucchesse Crime Family in jail, well in my opinion, fuck ya thats tough.

Why people will think that being tough is winning fights I will never know. Being tough is getting your ASS WHIPPED OVER AND OVER and still stepping up to the plate. Something you have obviously not done in your life, that is NOT in any way a personal shot at you. I just know that if you have been where a "tough mother fucker" has been, gone through the things a "tough mother fucker" has gone through and got your ASS WHIPPED like a "tough mother fucker" has then you would know what I am talking about.