Originally Posted By: jvanley


We all grew to love Tony and his crews, we would have all HATED it to see them be completely disrespected and got their balls broken by the NY Mafia like in real life. How could we have ever grown to like the show so much if Tony, pauly, sil and Chrissy constantly got their asses handed to them, cut out of schemes and killed.

Actually that was the throughout the show,more or less.Tony was being constantly disrespected and patronized both by Carmine and Phil Leotardo.They made unreasonable and downright disrespectful financial demands(40% of the HUD scam or the asbestos dumping for example).Both Carmine("glorified crew", "a don doesn't wear shorts" and Phil("Jersey?Come on John") mocked them.Gerry Torciano roughed up Hesh despite knowing he was with Tony.Doc Santoro used Sil to set up Gerry Torciano despite knowing Sil might get hurt.They were always under NY's thumb.
Johnny Sack was the only one who respected Tony but he still tried to pull fast ones over him,such as playing Paulie and getting info from him.
Originally Posted By: jvanley
The Decavalcantes were known as the mafias "farm team".

I don't think that was the case.NY mocked them as the "farmers",but they were not a 'farm team'.A farm team is where a major league team(so to speak) recruits members.Such was sometimes the case with the Tanglewood Boys and the Lucchese family.NY didn't recruit from the DeCavalcantes.
Originally Posted By: jvanley
Hell even the outfit, the Philly Mob and even the Partricia familes had more respect than the Decavalcantes.

Well the Outfit is a given,but I'm not sure about the others.

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As for the 'war',it was far fetched in the sense that in this day in age there would have to be a hell of a reason for two families to go to war.

But I'm not sure where people got the idea that Tony's family 'won'.
It was made clear from the very start that the situation was hopeless for the Jersey guys.But Tony was backed into a corner,he was marked for death anyway,so he had no choice.
-Paulie,who had big brass balls,and was portrayed as a legendary 'hitter' ,said "there could be a line at Cosarelli's(funeral place) a mile long".
-Tony's number 2 and 3 were hit
-Tony's crew had gone to ground.Meanwhile on the other side only Phil was hiding,the rest of his family was out in the open,and still no one got killed.
-The Jersey rackets were brining in no money.

The only they survived was because Butch betrayed Phil on account of Phil's implied threats over the phone,and it still took info from an FBI agent,else Tony would have never found Phil.

Last edited by Tyler_Durden; 01/22/11 01:44 PM.