"Again,the only recent conterfeit merchandise bust I can find is this one -
http://www.justice.gov/usao/mow/news2010/luna.ind.htm - and it involved over $48,000 in goods, not $400,000. Of the two guys involved, one of them (Brent Luna) could be Italian but he's only 25 and I doubt he's a made guy, if he's connected at all."
This has nothing to do with the indictment I am talking about. Okay once again here is the link for the conterfit operation
http://www.justice.gov/usao/mow/news2010/dicapo.ple.htm"It appears Charles Cammisano was killed by his ex-wife over domestic disputes."
See your just reading the newspaper clippings, the murder is unsolved, no one has every been charged with the murder. Cammisano's grandson phil corbet was murdered in his front yard no one has ever been charged. Here is the link to that this was in 2004 I believe.
http://www.pitch.com/2005-01-06/news/badda-bam/http://www.pitch.com/2005-01-06/news/badda-bam/2"I believe the Palmenteres sold their trucking and vending business back in the mid-1990's"
They sold there trucking business, but they just opened up Palmentare brothers coin operated vending on armour road.
"Peter Ribaste was put on the Nevada gaming exclusion list back in the late 1990's, around the time of his conviction for tax evasion."
And what the fuck does that have to do with anything I said, never said he was involved in casino's. I said he was taking care of business which were started and operate with mob money, this includes pawn shops and car lots.
"I believe Bazookas is owned by Dick Snow"
Hmmm, and just who would Dick Snow be, you know I live in this town and i might just know a little more than you. Bazookas is owned by Scope Pictures out of Denver Co. See link from secretary of states office. This is a company that the KC mob aquired in the 80's.
https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?1727357Now of the other clubs located in kansas city Diamond Joes, is owned by Joe Mandacina, Totally nude temptations, barely legal, club pure and the cigar box are owned by Peter Ribaste through his niece Diane Ribaste, his brother Louis and another dude that I cant think of his name at the moment and through the mob attorney Richard T. Bryant who shows on the registration for most adult establishments, including the show, gerrys silver slipper, and yes your right the Shady Lady is owned by Joe Spinello and has mob ties.
"Civella's sons were involved in the porn business in California about 20 years ago,I don't know about now"
Well I do since I own 3 adult entertainment facilities.
"Obviously the billing company the Gambinos were using had nothing to do with the mob in Kansas City".
How do you think some Gambino soldiers are going to have any enroads into Casstel which is in cass county missouri, which is in Harrisonville/Peculiar without someone from KC setting this up. By the way William Cammisano Sr. lives in Harrisonville, the only member not to live north of the river.
"Like I said, there are obviously still members and associates in Kansas City. But a formally structured, viable family? Doubtful."
Do you work for the FBI, how do you get your informatio, just curious.
And I'd be willing to bet the number of remaining members there 10 or 12. Maybe 15 at most. Basically guys who are obstensibly legitimate, as well as others who are involved in the mob staple of gambling and maybe some side action with drugs, robberies, etc.
“However, on its face, it doesn’t represent a resurgence of the Kansas City mob to anything near what they were in our city’s past.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/11/90229/out-of-the-mob-past-of-kansas.htmlUsing your own quote, he did not say there was not a resurgence of the mob in kansas city, he only said there was not a resurgence to the levels of the past.
"William Ouseley, a retired FBI agent who has written about organized crime in Kansas City, says that recent indictments do not signal that La Cosa Nostra is making a comeback. During the Q&A portion, Ouseley was asked about the Mafia's current state. Ouseley, who spent 21 years investigating organized crime, downplayed the recent breakup of an illegal sports betting operation. "There are wannabes out there," he said.
http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/04/form...of_wannabes.phpThese wanna bes include made members in the organization, Joe Mortina, William Cammisano jr., Jerry Cammisano, Vincent Civella. Ouseley is an FBI hack who stands to gain by the appearance of no mob activity since his book details how he and his fellow strike force members "killed the mob in kansas city"
Its amazing to me that a person can get his information through internet research, yet down play and disregard information from a person living in the city and better yet living in the neighborhood and in one of the businesses that the mob operates in. Yeah I can see where you would know more than me since your here with "boots on the ground". Unless you have classified clearance and are a member of the FBI, I have to wonder about your sources.
