Originally Posted By: Ludovico
Ok well I suppose I'lla gree with that if you purely meant domestic organized crime in new york. But so long as you know that New York isn't the only epicenter of power here in america.

Either way I aree with you about the american mafia now, they've begun operating on a much smaller scale internationally which is probably contributing to their decline.

To the best of my knowledge though the big influx of russian syndacites have been comeing in since the fall of the iron curtain, I'm defintly not denying a presence since the 70's but I don't think it was anything truely considerable as compared to now.

And to clear up one last misunderstanding I did think you were talking about the mafia as a whole in america not primarily the Five Famalies, now it makes more sense to me.


With relatively few exceptions, the American Mafia never had extensive international operations. Those few exceptions would be things like certain factions operating in Canada, stolen cars being shipped to Kuwait, wire rooms in Costa Rica, casinos in Cuba, drug connections to Mexico and South America, etc. The LCN was national in scope at one time. Now, it's influence is regional, mainly in the Northeast, parts of the Midwest, and Florida.

True, the main influx of Russian gangsters came about in the early 1990's but the prediction of many that the Russian Mob would replace the LCN has never taken place.

Last edited by JSTony; 09/27/08 02:28 AM.