Well Don Cardi... while you have a very strong point, NJ does have more italians demographically than NY, so I just refuse to believe that there is no good pizza outside of NY. That being said, my all time fave pizza places like Johns in the Village of Manhattan and Umberto's in Elmont/Queens are my all time fave, I just have to believe SOMEONE in NJ can come up with a decent slice... im still searching and will let you know... till then, i may have to make a special trip to http://kingumberto.com/ and buy extra to freeze -- get the "Grandma's" thats as close to real as it come as far as thin crust goes \:\)

"There are 2 types of people in the world, Italian, and those who wish they were Italian."

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