where did anyone claim that the HA were behind all of this? aside from the most recent conflict over 'THE BOOK' 2022- cont' the HA during the majority of these wars were imprisoned after numerous investigations and played almost no part and took no sides. it wasnt until VITOS release where the MAFIA-HA-WOOLLEY alliance took hold 2012-2015. i mean all but 1 of the over 100 full patch members were in jail at one point.

i have pointed through an exhaustive re check of many past murders in montreal how some should not be listed as being specific to a particular war. some not all were murders of opportunity over unpaid debts, money, take over of rackets or territory but not as part of revenge or total control of the city. there have been several cases of mistaken identity and the wrong people being killed. there have been some where it has been alleged it is indeed the HA 'cleaning house' on some of its own associates. the hard part for everyone is that there has been a tendency to lump every single murder in mtl (or toronto for that matter) into one all encompassing war. this is what is causing alot of confusion i find. the hair trigger approach by some is to assume they are all linked, and all linked to a larger quebec vs ontario or sicilian vs calabrian or 'the great canadian mafia war' moniker. when more likely it is several conflicts, wars and disputes in granted a small area geographically (montreal to toronto corridor) with some cross over amongst criminal groups. its a dogs breakfast to sort out is what im driving at. so assume nothing when guys go down and the purpose or reason. it is gonna take much more time to get a real look behind the curtain. perhaps silvas cooperation will be the straw?

one example of media et al jumping to conclusions. and really they cant be blamed in this era of who gets the story first. rocco zito. zito was murdered in 2011 and the all the initial reports were that it was the sicilians fighting back against those 'ndrangheta usurpers from toronto. what a big hit against this respected senior member. and then...it turned out fairly quickly i recall that the murder was by his son-in-law and had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any mafia affairs whatsoever. his son-in-law had been taking care of zito who was old, infirm and totally inactive in the 'ndrangheta world. zitos name likely still shows up in 'great canadian mafia war' lists polluting the internet along with many others.

my views on this are clear and i do enjoy the discussion and debate. i also appreciate how unlike past threads this has not digressed into typical online name calling. simply state yer case wait for a response reply etc. this is the way it should work. the situation is confusing i get that, trust me, and us online sleuths as said by others stand little chance in figuring most of this out. but we press on dont we. i liken following the milieu and mafia/oc in canada in general to reading about quantum mechanics. as soon as you've read about a theory its almost irrelevant or has changed or a new study, test or report has come to a new conclusion totally opposite of what one expected. thats what keeps us following along though i guess. say what you want about all this...it aint boring fellas.