Originally Posted by Ciment
In my opinion, there is a very strong possibility that the reds and other street gangs will get their way in not having to pay a tax. In the long run they will succeed. If the bikers want to survive they will have to share territory and/or get their hands dirty again in order to retain control of some of their territories. They will have to delegate more of the dirty work to their support MC.


In Montreal, there was a war between the Bo-Gars and BMF against the Hells Angels in the 2000s

A conflict is currently between the Bloods and the Hells Angels for control of drug sales in downtown Montreal, he added. Valdano was involved in this war, according to the police officer. The Hells praised this territory to the Syndicates gang and gangs affiliated with the Crips, the Bloods' enemy gang. "Now, the Bloods, the reds, are trying to take the territory, which does not particularly please bikers," added the police officer.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...01-31658-sursis-pour-un-chef-de-gang.php

The Bloods in Downtown against bikers

General and his friends are looking at Saint-Denis Street, an important artery in Montreal, to expand their territory. "We knew that the street belonged to bikers. We went there at 20 to get their attention, to show that we were there.

We were selling our drugs. Until the boss of the neighborhood sees us. So, we confronted him. And usually, there are not many people to oppose him." The group uses a cameo to call its supplier and wait for his arrival. They tied him up and called his boss in front of the hostage. "If the boss didn't want to give up his territory, we spread our message by beating his pusher."

General has no emotion when he tells this part of his life. For him, it's business as usual. "We were typing everyone. We didn't care, that they had patches. We were a gang, too. We typed two or three of their guys. They said ok, but don't touch Saint-Laurent Street. You would abuse. They are warriors, bikers, "he says with respect.

General and his group, in addition to their expansionist aims, must protect what they control. What they did to the bikers, in St-Denis, others imitate them to steal what they own.

General and his gang fight for their business first. They walk on the beds of the Blues, bikers and the mafia. And their affiliation with the Reds also leads them to marry the wars of the other members of the clan. The businesses of some create problems for everyone. "The bikers are not afraid of anything. They have gangs that exist just to kill. They are as bastards as we are. They too will shoot in the pile, no matter who is there. It was our biggest wars. In fact, the war with the bikers lasted a year. It was the one of the oldest Bloods." General speaks with respect of these enemies with whom he crossed the iron. But the tone changes when he addresses the subject of the mafia.

https://raymondviger.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/guerre-gang-de-rue-bloods-crips-montreal-nord/