hope some of this helps furio et al. i am not even a remotely talented computer design guy. i can type. i am not the chart maker, spreadsheets, photos and the like the guy. if you or others care to create a chart with those names you are free to do so. i wont even attempt such work as attempts to post in past have gone off the rails. and with the cuurent state and structure of the mafia in montreal it wouldnt layout like a typical mafia family anyway.