Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander


You could find a book implying anything. You seem to have a habit of putting whatever sexy scenario you find the most attractive into the Google search engine and immediately embracing whatever results you find, without even considering the possibility that the truth might be quite different.

It is almost nonsensical to even dignify with a response the suggestion that Tupac was killed for attempting to organize or unite the gangs. This is a man who literally got himself a MOB Piru tattoo in the months before his death, even though he had never grown up in Compton or done anything for that particular set. Are you familiar with LA gang politics? Do you know what it means to align yourself with a particular set? No one who is trying to establish unity or peace among the gangs for whatever nefarious purpose is in any hurry to get a gang tattoo, and they certainly aren't yelling MOB on record and wearing red clothing whenever they can.

Anyone who knows anything about Compton knows exactly who did this and why it was done. To suggest that the CIA recruited the South Side Crips to do this would sound insane to you if you were even remotely familiar with the backgrounds of these guys.


You are far more familiar with the scene G, so I take your words seriously. If you say so you are probably right.
Without real evidence the speculation will continue, maybe if there is a trial in the future and Suge starts to talk.


The problem is that most of the witnesses are dead. There is also no forensic evidence. What they do have are the words of Duane "Keefe D" Davis who has pretty much publicly admitted to have participated in the murder. As you might be aware of, it was his house that got searched recently. What they also have is a witness who was close to Suge who saw Keefe D and the South Side Crips parked in a vehicle outside the 662 shortly before the murder occurred. The most important witness would be Suge Knight, but will he talk? Suge has said many things about this over the years. Not longer after the murders he gave an interview to Vibe Magzine where he said that Tupac had told him that it was Baby Lane (Keefe D's nephew) who had shot him. In another interview, Suge talks about having seen the shooter himself. This might sound contradictory, but Suge has always had credibility issues himself. This is a problem.

I would not say there isn't any real evidence. There is evidence, but is it good enough? Perhaps the strongest piece of evidence is Keefe D's own proffer session that was recorded. Yes, he detailed the entire thing after he had been jammed up in a major drug sting that would have sent him away for life.

So why is Keefe D so important? Well, he is important because he's much more than Orlando Anderson's uncle. He is also someone who at one point was a major drug kingpin who provided West Coast security for Sean "Diddy" Combs and had a close business relationship with Comb's lifelong friend, Eric "Von Zip" Martin, a man the authorities allege was a major Harlem kingpin himself. Martin actually goes way back to the days of Melvin Combs who was Puffy's father. Melvin was a big time Harlem hustler.

Puffy can not deny this relationship. It was as real as the conversation we're having now. How can they prove this? Well, his own bodyguards have said it. Not to mention, Biggie's own Lil' Cease. And then we have Keefe's vehicle in Usher's video. We have them attending the same events. The circumstantial evidence is pretty thick and it's certainly not pointing to the CIA lol

So was Puffy involved? I believe it's very possible. It's tougher to prove though


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away