I have no idea...but those "women" @ that table are ...quite frankly..fugly...with the exception 2 the wife of said podcaster..whom I've never heard of anyways..why is it that all mob wives r blown up plastic barbie dolls??...fat ugly lips??..surgery b4 its time kinda looks??..It's all smoke & mirrors shit...the only good looking mob chicks that I gave a second look 2 were Di bees daughter circa late 1990s...& def Linda Scarpa circa '87 till 97...if u look @ her old videos @ her wedding etc..she was smokin'' hot....but these mob chicks 2 day r smoke & mirrors ( fake)...& downright ugly...Joey Merlino's wife was smokin' back when he met her @ The Saloon back in the day ...but now?...not so much...I'm gonna shut up now..later.