Originally Posted by The Last Woltz

I think you're being a bit harsh on Vito here.

We see him criticize Sonny for the "comedy" with Lucy Mancini and his outburst in the Sollozzo meeting. Surely there was plenty of other guidance we didn't see onscreen. And the coaching of Michael we see is clearly just part of their interactions after Michael's return from Sicily.

As for Fredo, we really don't know what support he got from his father. He did seem to be treated well and warmly, although Vito's "Fredo was..well..." comment was dismissive but also probably accurate as to his potential. I've always wondered whether Fredo's childhood pneumonia we see in GFII left him permanently diminished.

I do agree that Vito's apparent unwillingness to meddle in Connie's romance with Carlo was very harmful to pretty much everyone in the Fami, aly, including Connie.

If Vito's life were a rap sheet, we'd see a gangster who used violence--including murder--to acheive his criminal goals. He corrupted police, politicians and judges, subverting justice and the rule of law. Yes, he eschewed drugs for "harmless" criminal businesses. But, the big money in gambling comes not the odds favoring the house, but from loan sharking--a business of broken kneecaps or worse. And, every dollar he squeezed out of labor unions was a dollar stolen from a working person and used for subveerting the rights and benefits unions are supposed to provide their members, And, no, a "good father" doesn't bring his sons into his criminal enterprise, no matter how much he "never wanted this for you."

But, Vito's life as portrayed by Puzo and FFC isn't a rap sheet, and GF isn't a gangster movie per se--it's a movie about a family with the Mafia as the defining milieu. Vito's life is presented with nuances and emotions that don't redeem his criminal career, but do show him as a human being with feelings ad motivations we can relate to, even if we don't approve of all of them, He has limits, and sometimes a sense of balance and fairness. By contrast: Michael's life as portrayed shows us few of those "redeeming features." .


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