The poster "Joey Dice" can pretty much tell all things KC. Nick Civella and Tuffy Deluna were ruthless.There was another faction at war with them up until they got busted for the skim cant remember their names,it was several brothers.I just cant believe that Civella personally met Glick in a hotel room and told him he would poke his eyes out and he would be lucky to leave the room alive placing a gun on the table.What boss does that hell get a soldier insulate yourself man.There are some wiretaps with Spilotro and Civella,Deluna,Lombardo.Shenker on youtube.Pretty awesome Lombardo tells Shenker he wont reach his next birthday if he doesnt pay.