Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by Mamaluke
Well, I dont know. Some of you guys seem to have very strong feelings about these two. I enjoy Sammy's youtube videos, I think he's a great story teller. I dont care much for Franzese 's videos, I find him boring. I can't say whether his faith is a con and frankly, I dont think anyone can.

As far as being rats, I think they both betrayed their oaths. Who knows what you would do in somebody else's shoes? I'd like to think that I would never be a rat under any circumstances but I've never faced anything like that. Either way, that whole world no longer exists. Guys like Sammy and Franzese are like living relics, in that way they are interesting characters.



Other than the thousand or so made guys in America and almost 10 thousand associates, then yes that world no longer exists...


What exists isnt the same thing. They dont have the same reach, power, or cohesion. Its a shadow of what it was.