Originally Posted by WhackWhack
Originally Posted by Dob_Peppino
Does anyone thing The Soprano Crime Family would have been better/stronger if Tony had cowtowed to Junior in the beginning?
I mean, by him being his nephew and who he was, he eventually would have been boss anyway, imo. And some may say that Junior couldn't get passed the psychiatry thing but he didn't put the hit out on Tony until he found out about the secret meetings with the Capos. Junior was going down with legal issues anyway, its not out of range that Tony would have ened up in the same position. and could've avoided a war that decimated Junior's regime (a probable revenue stream for Tony) and surely created more whispers throughout the Family about him.

- lossed Mikey Palmice (who I think could've been kept in line by Junior and was a hitter, same with Chuckie)
- Losses Philly Spoons (who we can assume was a hitter, and the also affected the productivity/earning ability of Patsy)
- Guys in the Can (like Richie and Feech) had more respect for Junior although he was persona non grata. They could've been kept better in line IMO.
Thats several revenue streams and muscle that he could've been able to manage if he did "step over his own uncle to grab the big seat.... his father's brother" lol


Actually no, Spoons was NOT a hitter. In the big lunch scene in the back of Satriale's when Patsy was in grief talking about Spoons, he said out loud that Spoons was not a Heavy man with anyone (meaning he never committed violence).

Not everyone has had to kill someone to be made. For better or for worse.

Originally Posted by Jamesbontate33
I always figured he would have been killed , he killed Phil in front of his wife and family. There's no way n.y would let that slide , just seems like the mafia way to do things . Use Tony to clip Phil for going to war , than clip Tony in front of his family . Kinda seems like a don Bruno and caponigro type of situation. ..well similar in a sense . Obviously just my opinion but that's kind of what I got from that last scene.


If things played out this way, we never would have had the Patsy pissing in the pool scene.