Originally Posted by majicrat
NYMafia, sounds reasonable to me. My only disagreement is with the attachment to another family. I have nothing to base this on except my opinion. Why would KC need to be with a "traditional" family. One, they're their own traditional family which you have written about very well. Two, in this day and age if I were a smaller viable family (which I think they are) why would I need another family to protect me and/or settle my disputes. Today's mob is just not big enough, or TOUGH enough (im talking out west now) to intrude on another families turf. not like in the past when Chicago would send a crew of "killers" to make you change your mind. I just don't see that in todays mob, maybe, just maybe in NY with CT, or NJ for example. But who's strong and big enough to send a crew out to KC and convince them to cooperate if they don't want to out there? And to force them to pay tribute to the larger family for protection? I don't see it. And if it's happening, then maybe we're all underestimating the power and influence of todays mob. (I hope the above made sense typed it quick)


Good point. If they DO HAVE say, 10-15 goodfellas left, and associates around those made guys. Then you are correct in your assessment. But if there are only 2,3, or 4 made guys left. With no "lifeline" to a TRUE fully recognized borgata, then these individual made guys are essentially "independents".........that could very well be. But they then are NOT a family per se. Just a few remnants of what once was, bouncing around and making a few dollars the best they can.

If there IS a KC mob structure in places, (and through my studies I truly believe that there is), then this entire conversation we're having is moot. Agreed?

If their is NO central command "hierarchy" in control (NO KC family), then it stands to reason that any left over soldiers require a "home" so to speak. And Detroit, being closest in proximity to them, would be my choice as a "home base"

It all depends upon how many guys (made) are left. And I don't care if they are running a book, a shy, babania, or all 3 of the above. Thats window dressing, and doesn't affect our conversation. Regardless of their activities, they are still a borgata if they have a hierarchy.




Last edited by NYMafia; 02/23/21 03:48 PM.