Even the older, longer established black and hispanic gang members fall woefully short of what the mafia was, and is. None of them, NONE, have the deep penetration, sophistication, or ability to transcend themselves into anything but what they have always been. Street urchins.

They have no deeper "well" of understanding of what's what. Only their extremely limited knowledge of selling drugs, violence, and hurting one another. Period! And thats a well worn fact. How can you elevate yourself to become something more, when you don't have the "tools" to do it? You don't even know what it is you should be searching for to achieve.

With the Italian underworld, we are talking next level shit here. Not riding motorcycles by guys who haven't bathed or shaved in weeks. Or blacks and hispanic "kids" for all intents and purposes (regardless of how old they may be), who don't have a "clue" ?

The ONLY place I've seen them become a 'bit' elevated has been in Canada. An anomaly for sure. But even up there they are still "lost in space" in the larger scheme of things.