Make them into what Family? The Lucchese family? Scarfo Jr never got transferred back to Philly and never would. What old timer? From what family? Where did this bullshit story come from?
The 2010 Stefanelli transcripts show the Philly guys talking about Scarfo Jr's efforts to take back the Philly family with his father as boss. That's where the Joey Grande part is mentioned. I believe the Ciancaglini part comes from a detention memo in the First Plus case. Anastasia and Schratwieser did a Mob Talk last year about the ceremony where they mentioned the 'old-timer'. Anastasia adds it's unclear whether they were made into the Lucheses, Philadelphia or just 'in their own mind'.
If the ceremony wasn't to induct them into the Luchese family then it would be to induct them in a Scarfo-led, Luchese-recognised Philly family. Then Scarfo Jr gets busted, the plan for taking back Philly falls apart, and somehow Persiano and Piccolo are taken in by the actual Philly family.
