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Re: Yakuza question
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09/18/20 02:29 AM
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They tried back in 1964 which only lasted till 1965 when the Yamaguchi-gumi left. Since then there are factions of the Yakuza having social gatherings, meaning some groups are affiliated with other organizations on a board. These are the Kanto-Shinboku-kai, Yonsha-kai, Gosha-kai, and the Kanto-Shinno-Doushi-kai all still active as the others have disbanded over the decades. Think of them like how the American LCN, Sicilians, Ndrangheta, and Camorra are structured. Tokyo is still the hot bed for the Yakuza, which is why the Kanto-Shinboku-kai and Kanto-Shinno-Doushi-kai have the biggest influence there.
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Re: Yakuza question
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09/19/20 05:01 PM
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Yes and no. The Yamaguchi-gumi is big so there are more levels, the bigger ones are like that but all are similar. Hollander already said it. Clans are gangs, that have the same structure, but when it comes to Federation setups, the Kimicho is the boss of bosses for the group, underneath him are the Saiko-Komon, and So-Honbucho are associates who are direct with the boss. The Wasagashira is the underboss and right hand man to the Kimicho who is also a Kanbu the boss of his own family and are made members. The Kanbu are bosses of their own families. The Shateigashira is also a Kanbu who oversees Kyodai members and are regional bosses. The Gashira are Kanbu who are under the Kimicho with two or more becoming Wasagashira and Shateigashira. The Kyodai are big brothers who are equivalent to capo who are in command of Shatei are little brothers who are soldiers. The exception to this structure is the Sumiyoshi-Kai which has a Kimicho who's power is shared with seven other Kanbu. When it comes to a clan there is one kanbu, but the structure is the same. There are a total of 25 organizations that are designated boryokudan, but the yakuza membership is actually three time or more then the numbers given has there are many groups not given this designation.
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Re: Yakuza question
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09/20/20 05:48 PM
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Southern Japan, and Tokyo. The areas I mentioned above, but I have to say in Hiroshima besides their HQ, clubs, gambling dens and businesses, I did not see them at snack bars or Karaoke, which is big over there. Tokyo they are a dime a dozen, and they come in from surrounding areas as they have business there. Osaka you see them a lot. Even when you dont see them, you know they are around. A friend of mine who was a guide to me over there, father was a Yakuza member in Fukuoka which is Yakuza central and I believe him, but I have never been there, so I am just taking his word for it.
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Re: Yakuza question
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09/25/20 03:54 AM
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Re: Yakuza question
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09/26/20 02:24 AM
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The Tattoos are not forced anymore, not since the 1990s, once in the 2000s, they started to relax that. He was most likely in a Bosozoku when he was a teen, which severe as a recruitment pool. A lot of Yakuza comes from Burakumin or Korean background, not all of then but at least have of their membership, some organizations are dominated by these. If you understand the Japanese society and culture, then you know they believe they are better then everyone else and looks down of those that they feel are not to their standards. When he said they dont require a member to cut off his finger to make amends, that is true, as some of the larger Federations are moving away from that tradition, but not all. His story of him fighting with the boss of his family and leaving the Yakuza is also true. There have been many members since the late 2000s that have retired due to an argument with a higher ranking member in the family, but the big one was the split in the Yamaguchi-gumi in 2015. Ironically the group that split from Yamaguchi-gumi in 2015, also split in 2017. I think the guy was in the Yamaguchi-gumi since most of what he says lines up with that organization, and although I never been to Fukuoka, my friend said that drugs were heavy there. I can state for a fact that drugs are rampant in Tokyo as many Japanese work long shifts, I know a few that pulled 30 hours or more on a shift and they dont get enough sleep, they are always working.
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