You ain't kidding Louie! lol..... it's like Filet Mignon!

I never said that the family was going to take care of HIS family. I clearly said the money he made during his criminal run WILL be enough to take care of his family for a while. He was a big H dealer and was the street/acting boss for what, a little under a decade? Joe DeFede, a brokester who had Madonnas position testified he made 250k a year as acting boss. A much better money maker like Madonna easily made double if not triple that. There is no way that Madonna isn't leaving at least 4-5 mil for his kids/grandkids. And as long as they live within their means that will take care of not only his kids but his kids kids for their entire lives.

Like do you not realize the reason he supposedly killed Meldish was that Meldish refused to pay back 100k that Madonna himself floated him? You think a guy would just lend out 100k if he himself wasn't a multi millionaire? No.

Barnes must have it wrong. Madonna must have served only 15 years in prison, not 20 years. Because the timeline will be all wrong if it was 20 years in prison.

19 years old - 34 years old - 15 years in prison

34 years old - 40 years old - On the streets dealing with Barnes

40 years old - 60 years old - 20 years in prison

60 years old (1995) Released from prison

63 years old (1998) Inducted into the Lucchese family

66 years old (2001) Promoted to capo

67 years old (2002) Sent back to prison for 18 months for a parole violation.

68 years old (2003) Released from prison

He did another prison stretch but I don't know what for and I don't know the dates, but it was 3 years or less.

77 years old (2012) Promoted to Acting boss

80 years old (2015) Back in prison held without bail

82 years old (2017) Forced to step down as Acting boss

84 years old (2020) Died from natural causes in prison

Opps!! I got carried away with this post.

I would assume modonna made 5-10 million a year between the bookmaking in new jersey,the bookmaking in new york, the labor schemes and the bribes paid to inspectors..Madonna made millions and that 250k wasnt what he made it was the money from the garment center thats been misquoted a million times....its organized crime the drugs they sell alone bring millions,not to mention the money steve crea turned in..Crea loaned Randy Silverstein 1.2 million in 2014 alone and he was the UNDERBOSS Not the boss

Walk away to what?

He was 60 years old and just finished a 20 year bid. He'd spent 35 years of the last 40 years in prison. His rap sheet included murder and narcotics trafficking. This guy ain't getting a job at Disneyland, I can tell you that much.

NEW YORK -- Joseph...
WWD Staff




BAIL HEARING SET FOR TODAY FOR DEFEDE IN GARMENT CENTER EXTORTION CASE

NEW YORK — Joseph (Little Joe) Defede, the alleged acting boss of the Luchese crime family, who was charged Tuesday along with 11 other men with extortion of garment firms, has a date in court today.
Defede is scheduled to appear at 2 p.m. in Magistrate’s Court for a detention hearing. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office said Defede’s attorney will probably ask the court to release Defede on bail, “and we will oppose.”
“The other defendants have either posted bail or are expected to post bail,” the spokesman said.
As reported, Daniel Rizzo, Michael Vuolo, Oscar (Little O) Ansourian, Sidney Lieberman, Irwin Schlacter and John Munro are charged with racketeering in an indictment that was unsealed on Tuesday.
The indictment charges the defendants with committing nine separate acts from 1991 to 1996 on behalf of the Luchese crime family involving extortion of legitimate garment center businesses.
The U.S. Attorney claims mobsters extorted $2.5 million, or an average of $360,000 to $480,000 a year.

Matthew Madonna is not dead. That was a fake rumor posted in April saying he died from COVID-19 which is false. Madonna is still alive.

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Matthew Madonna is not dead. That was a fake rumor posted in April saying he died from COVID-19 which is false. Madonna is still alive.[/quote]

No shit!!? I'm shocked

yeah no shit i didnt say disney land i said walk away he could have opened a gambling site..he could have stuck to shylocking...he wanted to be the boss

Neo, he didn't die in prison. Unless they just sentenced a ghost and I heard a ghost make a statement during sentencing. He had Covid and recovered.

The two racketeering and extortion indictments filed by Federal prosecutors charged the reputed acting Lucchese crime boss, Joseph A. DeFede, 64, of Howard Beach, with directing the garment district schemes. At least $30,000 to $40,000 a month, or a total of about $2.5 million, was extorted from garment makers as well as sewing, cutting and dye plants, prosecutors said.

Yeah Louiebynochi just pointed that out to me.

DeFede only made $250,000 per year (excluding his own rackets) from his position as acting boss.

Yep and that was in the mid 90s when the family was decimated after numerous guys flipping and top talent being sent away. Madonna wasn't a brokester like DeFede. And who is really thumbing their nose at 250k a year in the mid 90s? Like thats some small amount hahaha. Even in 2020 250k a year is a fortune and over 4 times the amoung what the average American Household makes.






https://nypost.com/2003/01/22/crime-pays-lousy-mobster-laments-his-250g-a-year/




"Heading up a crime family is not nearly as lucrative a job as it’s cracked up to be, a mob turncoat said yesterday.

Joseph “Little Joe” Defede – testifying at the racketeering trial of Peter Gotti – said he earned only $1,014,000 as boss of the Luchese crime family from 1994 to 1998.

The approximately $250,000 a year doesn’t come close to what a corporate CEO – even an honest one – earns."

"Speaking of money matters, Defede said the total take of the approximately 100-member Luchese family over the four years he headed it was about $6 million.

After Defede’s $1 million cut, a lower-ranking mobster would average only about $50,000 a year, if Defede’s figures are accurate.

Defede broke down his quarter-million-dollar-a-year take as follows: a salary of about $60,000 a year, plus $50,000 bonuses every three months.

The money, he said, was brought to him in paper bags delivered in the bathrooms of various diners."




So from 94-98 , a brokester was able to make 250 grand a year as street boss/acting boss. This was right after the windows case and the Gaspipe and Amuso street reign where informants and murder was happening left and right. Amuso purposely put a brokester in that spot since he assumed after he put Al D'arco in who was stealing he figured if he put in a guy who never came close to that much money a year he wouldn't have to worry. And remember, 250k in the mid 90s is way more now. In fact, 250k in 1995 is equal to 382k in 2013. So yeah, anyone who thinks Matty Madonna, big time earner wasn't a multi millionaire from being acting boss is out to lunch.

382k for even 5 years is nearly 2 million. And I know Madonna was making more then what DeFede was overseeing the family, so what I said was all true. Madonna has millions, he had enough to lend 100 grand to Meldish and has millions in cash left for his family. Thats why he took the job. He was already old when he was made, let alone when he became capo and then acting boss. Over 15 years on the street as a Capo and Acting Boss...yeah his family is going to be just fine for a long time.


Yeah I mean obviously he isn't leaving his family the kind of money that Carlo Gambino, Tommy Lucchese, Chin or Bonanno left theirs with but it is definitely far more then what 98% of this country will leave theirs.

I mean they did wanna bring in a ghost as a prosecution witness

Gravano had it hard though. Gotti ordered Gravano to take the fall for the murders. Gotti told Gravano: "I'm the boss and the Gambino family needs me out on the street" and he also egotistically told Gravano: "Cosa Nostra needs John Gotti".

Everyone has got a breaking point and for Gravano it was when he was ordered to take the fall for the murders.

Sammy Gravano only cares about Sammy Gravano. He had people killed just so he could make more money . Sammy didn't flip because of what Gotti supposedly said, to pleas guilty so Gotti could walk (even an arrogant prick like Gotti knew he was not getting out of this one) Gravano flipped because he cared about Sammy Gravano first and foremost. He blames Gotti, the "new age mafiosi" and dyslexia on why he became a gangster and flipped. He is simply self serving.

The only people on Gravanos level in terms of scumminess are Joe Massino, Anthony Casso, Phil Leonetti, Ralph Natale, and maybe a few others. Any mafiosi who held a top 3 spot who flipped is pure trash. Makes me sick they let guys like Joe Massino and Sammy Gravano walk the streets at the end of the day. Hell, the guy who probably helped just as much if not more then those 2, Anthony Casso got double crossed by the feds because they didn't like when he fingered dirty FBI and Gravano for lying about the # of murders and that he was a major drug dealer. Casso at least held no bones about it, he said he flipped because he wanted to hit the street again and was selfish. He didn't lie and make up a reason.

Gravano is indeed very self-serving, but he didn't flip straight away, he needed a bit of a push from Gotti.

For most of the trial Gotti always believed he would win the case, he tried to pretend that Sammy went rogue and started ordering hits on his own, he rubbished the wiretapped convo's as shit talk. Despite the mountain of evidence, Gotti still believed he could win........until Sammy flipped.