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Pat Musitano dead #993640
07/10/20 05:04 PM
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Word is going around here in Hamilton right now that fat Pat Musitano was shot dead at a Burlington plaza today. Also some rumour about a Luppino being wounded in the same shooting - although that would seem an odd possibility. Nothing confirmed yet on the news.


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Hamilton Spectator and CHCH TV News are now saying their sources are identifying one victim as Pat Musitano. Police took away Black SUV Denali.


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Ya, Paul manning seemed to have confirmed it. Gotta give it to Pasquale, the guy was tough.

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Now I'm hearing the second victim wasn't a Luppino afterall, but someone called 'pino'. That could be his cousin Giuseppe 'Pino' Avignone who was also said to be on a hit list. If so, that's the leadership gone. "Chop off the head and the body dies"!


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Musitanos are done. The second victim who died at the hospital is John Clary, bodyguard and enforcer for Pat Musitano. The third person injured is said to Giuseppe Avignone, but is not confirmed.


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Musitanos are done. The second victim who died at the hospital is John Clary, bodyguard and enforcer for Pat Musitano. The third person injured is said to Giuseppe Avignone, but is not confirmed.


The last years Musitano was already finished as an effective ‘Ndrangheta cell leader.


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Pat and Angelo were not ‘ndrangheta members, despite the fact their father and uncle (Tony) were. Contact Paul Manning if you want more details.

Halton Regional Police Service media releases in chronological order:

https://www.haltonpolice.ca/about/media/view_release.php?releaseID=6560

https://www.haltonpolice.ca/about/media/view_release.php?releaseID=6561

https://www.haltonpolice.ca/about/media/view_release.php?releaseID=6562

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I really hope someone with first hand knowledge in Hamilton, GTA and Montreal flips at some point. This would make for an amazing movie!

I’ve been amazed countless times over the last 15 years since the killings started.

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Are the Sicilians behind this?

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i've always believed the musitanos were a "ndrangheta cell.
over the last few years the musitanos have been a much smaller and ineffective cell but if they were not 'ndrangheta as numerous articles and books have stated over the past 20 + yrs what were they?
and i wouldn't say the "sicilians"(whatever that means) r behind this.
pats murder could be the end of the war which started in 2017 between the musitanos and the luppino/violi faction of the buffalo crime family.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i've always believed the musitanos were a "ndrangheta cell.
over the last few years the musitanos have been a much smaller and ineffective cell but if they were not 'ndrangheta as numerous articles and books have stated over the past 20 + yrs what were they?
and i wouldn't say the "sicilians"(whatever that means) r behind this.
pats murder could be the end of the war which started in 2017 between the musitanos and the luppino/violi faction of the buffalo crime family.


If so, does anyone know what set off the war? Also, both sides have take a lot of damage and the streets won’t wait for them to heal.

Who will fill the void?

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2017
may 2- angelo musitano murdered.
june 27-home of pat musitano shot at.

2018
apr 18-attempted murder of natale luppino and giuseppe capobianco by 4 individuals from MTL.
sept 13-murder of albert iavarone,brother of antonio and associated w/luppino/violi faction.

2019
jan 30-murder if vincenzo luppino son of rocco luppino who is now the leader of luppino/violi faction after arrest and imprisonment of violi bros. in project o tremens.
apr 17-attempted murder of pat musitano.
june 17-attempted murder of jason lalonde alleged associate of pat musitano.
july 24-car accident outside home of pat musitano involving hit team and bodyguard john clary.

2020
mar 2-murder of giorgio barresi associate of pat musitano.
july 10-murder of pat musitano,bodyguard john clary and attempted murder of giuseppe avignone(alleged that he was the 3rd victim has not been confirmed)

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The accumulation of coke money is only so good, the intake/laundering into the system is so important.

Previous the province was able to use trading companies in Mississauga and Montreal linked to Joe Ertel.

This also includes the crooked cops that rob or accept the coke money. I know of a Satellite installer who was gonna be a Hamilton cop, named DiSilva, who couldn’t because he blew out his knee. However, he told anyone who would listen about his buddies who do this.

You see the Figliomeni gets arrested for this, the Gambinos/Inzirello get arrested for this, but these biker/cops guys keep going. They must be the real government, and Hells Angels under guys like that is a corporate gimmick and poptart stuff, like you see on Vegas of LA ink.

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I pretty sure that the Rizzuto were targeted for this in Montreal, maybe this is the criminal wing of those people targeting the Rizzuto. Since, they do the same stuff, as well other stuff that others don’t do. Yet, the cop/bikers of Ontario never get arrested or even get their names in the media.

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I think there is a rather significant biker/cop family out of the east end of Hamilton, currently.

How is that even possible??


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You don’t hear anything about the other Musitano brother, (Dominic jr) I believe?? Is he involved in the “ family business “ also??

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I bet James Dubro from GLAAD, the crime reporter is happy. He hated Pat Musitano, and has been calling for his death for a while now, it’s not like these Calabrese are Versace.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesdubro?lang=en


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Dubro was also the one who said they were a ndrangheta cell anyhow there are obvious links to Calabria.


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I’ve heard Antonio Nicaso mention the well know fact there are gays/bi men in Woodbridge, is that why this Dubro want Musitano dead. He seems so satisfied for a journalist??

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...led-mob-boss-pat-musitanos-death-warrant

Musitano wasn’t part of that, now this Dubro is hoping for those type of ‘whatever’ Turks, to be the Calabrese in charge. The power of controlling the media, with a hidden agenda? Kinda like that weirdo bi Persian in Game of Thrones lol

So weird, it’s like Rocco Perri and Bessy Starkman are back in Toronto lol or Bugsey Siegel is in LA.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Dubro was also the one who said they were a ndrangheta cell anyhow there are obvious links to Calabria.


This is what Dubro tweeted last night:

Pat Musitano was a ruthless mafioso who had pissed off because of his murders & scams just about every other major ndrangheta family & has been a dead man walking for the past 4 yearsThis is finally then end of the Musitano crime family after 60 years.Pat was no longer respected

https://twitter.com/jamesdubro/status/1281751034294087680?s=21

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Wow, this is huge news even though everyone figured it was coming. They are officially done now (another secret I know lol)

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Originally Posted by Jnardsincuse
You don’t hear anything about the other Musitano brother, (Dominic jr) I believe?? Is he involved in the “ family business “ also??


I dont believe he will be hit.


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so i guess the luppino/violi r the #1 mafia group in hamilton as of now.

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The downfall of Hamilton mob boss Pasquale “Pat” Musitano http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-downfall-of-hamilton-mob-boss-pasquale-pat-musitano


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Burlington Mobster Pat Musitano killed. Antonio Nicaso. Expert on organized crime joins us.

https://omny.fm/shows/roy-green-show/burlington-mobster-pat-musitano-killed-antonio-nic


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I never thought I could share this, but there is a thread between the screws in the Ontario prisons that might be able to help clear things up.

Names Matt Latimer, he’s related to a builders in Hamilton via marriage, was hired as a Peel cop, couldn’t cut it, so joined the court/prison crew. Would brag about jumping guys in cells 10 on 1. Similar beliefs as demonic HA from Kirkland Lake named Richar Gervais. His relatives were in Hamilton in 2014, he brother Mike, was close to alderman Tom Jackson. His cousin Phil is a full patch HA from Edmonton, who participated in the Sheldon Massacre, from what he claims.

In Montreal during the HA vs Rock Machine they had screws/cops/bikers that would engage in prison sex shit, either in prison or not. Ask Sal Cazzetta or Paul Porter if you want clarification lol. Others like them were just slanging blow, etc.

Yves Apache Trudeau was one, who was basically helped by the RCMP to rape boys. Aime Savard and Danny Kane, were what is referred to as ‘brothers, lovers and best friends’, that’s what the Bacchus patch really represents. It magically showed up in Hamilton, as well.

Sort of like Broke Back Mountain, but involving cops/bikers/screws, politicians, CEOs, celebrities.

Regardless, the Nomad Charter our of Montreal, with Martin as Prez and Crazy as VP that magically appeared in Ontario, should at least be considered this.

I also think an HA kid in Hamilton with the last name Fitzsimmons is also a Screw or sorts.

People should read the books Hells Angels at War and The Showdown to grasp the biker politician cs of Ontario, and at least grasp why nobody wanted Hells Angels in Ontario, especially in Hamilton.

No matter North Hollywood wished would of happened, they and Canada have to accept that they aren’t Hollywood or California.

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What does that mean? No needs to talk in code or circles, just say what you want to say!

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So does this mean he’s not in the family business???

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He is the president of local 102. He is an associate.


"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
so i guess the luppino/violi r the #1 mafia group in hamilton as of now.


They've always been.


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Murdered mob boss Pat Musitano symbolized Ontario's Mafia with his gangster chic — and the mayhem that shadowed him

https://www.capebretonpost.com/news...and-the-mayhem-that-shadowed-him-472463/


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Anyone hear BS about Papalia from undercovers, like Sam Moore in Hamilton, guy used to be a Vice cop. He married a relative of a Speziale from Railway. Goes around spreading lies, and putting people in situations where they gotta make up lies to get people killed.

Guys like this help create these scenarios and are expecting a promotion or drug money? Or both lol


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Molochiolndiced, what are you going on about? What BS about Papalia? Are you talking about Johnny Pops? Are talking about the current Papalia family with Patrick "Nick" Papalia being Frank Bifulco favorite guy up in Canada? About the Papalia family being mad on a number of issues with the Musitano family and Buffalo. Joe Todaro Sr died so most of the beef they had with Buffalo died with Todaro. They were still mad about Johnny pops being killed by the Musitanos. They were in agreement with the Luppinos although Violi also was displeased with the Musitanos doing more business with the Sicilians in GTA. They were mad that the Musitanos pulled the rug from out under them in a multi million project. All of which is true. So again what BS are you talking about?


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‘Things are right up close, personal.’ Pat Musitano’s hitman shares tales of working for Hamilton mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...of-working-for-the-hamilton-mobster.html

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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Molochiolndiced, what are you going on about? What BS about Papalia? Are you talking about Johnny Pops? Are talking about the current Papalia family with Patrick "Nick" Papalia being Frank Bifulco favorite guy up in Canada? About the Papalia family being mad on a number of issues with the Musitano family and Buffalo. Joe Todaro Sr died so most of the beef they had with Buffalo died with Todaro. They were still mad about Johnny pops being killed by the Musitanos. They were in agreement with the Luppinos although Violi also was displeased with the Musitanos doing more business with the Sicilians in GTA. They were mad that the Musitanos pulled the rug from out under them in a multi million project. All of which is true. So again what BS are you talking about?


None of that stuff, which all seems true. Ask that loser cop if you know him, and all his pussy buddies. See how guys like that fit into to all the stuff that has gone down in Hamilton since 2014, involving everyone around there.

Not implying anyone Papalia, Violi/Luppino are a Narc, just that people like that cop will say or make up anything for a dollar or a promotion.

They are an invisible part of business that never gets mentioned and are free to fan the flames and are never held responsible for the problems they start. Cops are a gang unto themselves, the worst of all IMO.

I apologize if it seemed I was implying anyone was somehow working with LE.

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Has Musitano family saga reached its end?
With the death of Pat Musitano, a chapter of the city’s colourful, criminal past may be over

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-hamilton-spectator/20200713/281552293157819

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Pat Musitano killing opens the door for turnover in Hamilton Mafia underworld, expert says

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Mafia experts say Burlington, Ont., shooting death of Hamilton’s Musitano ‘not suprising’

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Some interesting points here, didn't realize that a Papalia enforcer, Enio Mora, was also whacked back in '97 prior to Papalia. Also didn't know that the Violi brothers and members of the Luppino clan were next on the list. Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.

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Originally Posted by mike68
Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.



Had to have been

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Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.



Had to have been


About a dozen murders have been linked to this feud, but it's probably more complex than just Musitano vs Luppino/Violi.


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They set pinos house on fire and spray painted the word rat

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What they are saying here is that the word 'rat' was painted on Avignone's garage door and 2 cars set on fire in the driveway. Not suprised really, it was the smart move. If Pino didn't help set up Pat he would be the next one wacked.


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They set pinos house on fire and spray painted the word rat


Home of Musitano family member has cars torched, garage painted with the word 'rat'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-police-fire-garage-rat-1.5653226

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Canada, a 5-year mafia war
Gioacchino Criaco - 18 July 2020

Thirty deaths in the past five years in the Great Lakes region, Ontario, and from Montreal to Toronto. According to the official reports of the Red Jackets. In parallel, an unofficial relationship would greatly increase the killed victims, and in the murmurs of the underworld the river of the killed would have a longer, broader course. Formally there is, in Canada, a single large family of mafia: a hybrid born as a filiation of our American thing but formed above all by criminals from the province of Reggio Calabria, whose leaders over a century have all become Calabrian as well as the affiliation ceremony. The Canadian mafia is now considered alone 'ndrangheta , a single family with many places where there should be no conflict, and officially no one admits them, no one intends the dead except those accused of having attacked the lives of other affiliates.

But except for a few murders, the origin remains a mystery. Who kills who, and why, if we are all children of the same mother? The last to ask is lying on the lawn of a Burlington parking lot , a stone's throw from Hamilton: Pasquale "Fat Pat" Musitano got out of his armored suv with his trusted men, Pino Avignon and John Clary. He was a big man of 200 kilos, already survived two ambushes, he didn't trust anyone, yet a lone killer screwed him. It came from Aspromonte his blood shed on the ground, like that of Pino Avignone who is in intensive care. Perhaps he is now in the right place to understand the truth, he has reached his brother Angelo, who was also killed three years ago, almost inside the house, by someone who did not seem to be an enemy.

Thousands and thousands of kilometers away and the Aspromontan tragedy followed its bad boys: the art of deception, of attributing blame to those who do not really have it, of bringing others to kill each other considering themselves the victims of ambushes of others, and finally triumph over everyone's stupidity. Decades of murders among the Irish, the Latinos, the Jewish mafia, the motorcycle gangs, all subordinates and customers of the large 'Ndrangheta family. Wars, clarifications and truce, and nobody knows who really re-triggers the slaughter every time. The Musitano as ndrina no longer exist, erased from the plot, they who had erased the Papalia 'ndrina, driven by the same plot. The mafiosi in Canada kill each other, and nobody really knows why, every time they think they have identified the enemy, afterwards, they understand that they have fallen into yet another trap.

It is the strategy of the cuckoo, daughter of the Aspromontan Greece born before the Greek Greece. It is the song of the cuckoo, born long before the song of the goat, the tragedy. Fat Pat Avignone and the many gangsters who preceded him were thrown out of their nest by a bird of prey born from a foreign egg that someone put inside. Only at the end of the slaughter will the mystery be clarified.

https://www.ilriformista.it/canada-una-guerra-di-mafia-lunga-5-anni-132827/


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‘He knew he was a dead man walking’: The final days of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20200721/281509343500226

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Police say man found in wooded lot in east London was victim of homicide

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/human-remains-grant-edward-norton-1.5658987

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Principal of company linked to Pat Musitano found murdered in London

https://www.thespec.com/news/crime/...t-musitano-found-murdered-in-london.html


Business partner of slain mobster Pat Musitano found dead in London

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...r-pat-musitano-found-dead-in-london.html

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Homicide victim reportedly had ties to slain Hamilton mob boss

http://ctv.news/ifpTU8h

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'THE SHARKS ARE CIRCLING': Pat Musitano associate on lam murdered in London, Ont.

https://torontosun.com/news/provinc...associate-on-lam-murdered-in-london-ont/

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Damn they wiping out everybody tied to Pat in Hamilton.

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Fuckin crazy shit but it’s come to
Be expected in Hamilton. So I guess we can say the luppinos/Violi clan is putting in major work
Right now with all these killings?

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London interesting any other mob activity in the city?

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Homicide victim found in London had ties to Pat Musitano, unclear if deaths are related

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hami...o-unclear-if-deaths-are-related-1.565983

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Police say they have ‘very solid leads’ in identifying suspects in killing of former business partner of slain mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.thespec.com/ts/news/gta...rtner-of-slain-mobster-pat-musitano.html

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the HA and outlaws mc have chapters in london and there has been claimed an 'ndrangheta 'ndrine in the city but last info came from an initiation ceremont in 1987 i think.

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I'm always amazed at the level of gang wars and struggles for supremacy in Canada. Whether it be Montreal, Toronto, or elsewhere. In this day and age of 2020, they operate like it's 1950s New York or Chicago.

These N'dranghetista are wild. For that matter the Sicilian nationals aren't much better. If this was in the United States the justice department would have cracked down on them much the same as they did in NYC back in the early and mid-1990s during the "Third Colombo War".

And the multitude of factions operating there; Sicilian Mafia, Calabrian N'drangheta, Hells Angels, street gangs, drug gangs, Irish crew, Haitians, etc etc is mind boggling....truly a mixed bag up in Canada.

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I'm always amazed at the level of gang wars and struggles for supremacy in Canada. Whether it be Montreal, Toronto, or elsewhere. In this day and age of 2020, they operate like it's 1950s New York or Chicago.

These N'dranghetista are wild. For that matter the Sicilian nationals aren't much better. If this was in the United States the justice department would have cracked down on them much the same as they did in NYC back in the early and mid-1990s during the "Third Colombo War".

And the multitude of factions operating there; Sicilian Mafia, Calabrian N'drangheta, Hells Angels, street gangs, drug gangs, Irish crew, Haitians, etc etc is mind boggling....truly a mixed bag up in Canada.


It's all about drugs in Canada.


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Police say they have ‘very solid leads’ in identifying suspects in killing of former business partner of slain mobster Pat Musitano - Peter Edwards

https://www.flamboroughreview.com/n...bster-pat-musitano/#.Xx7JmvWew1k.twitter

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A Mobster Clan in Canada is Being Decimated by Revengeful Rivals

https://www.occrp.org/ru/daily/1286...-is-being-decimated-by-revengeful-rivals


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Molochiolndiced, what are you going on about? What BS about Papalia? Are you talking about Johnny Pops? Are talking about the current Papalia family with Patrick "Nick" Papalia being Frank Bifulco favorite guy up in Canada? About the Papalia family being mad on a number of issues with the Musitano family and Buffalo. Joe Todaro Sr died so most of the beef they had with Buffalo died with Todaro. They were still mad about Johnny pops being killed by the Musitanos. They were in agreement with the Luppinos although Violi also was displeased with the Musitanos doing more business with the Sicilians in GTA. They were mad that the Musitanos pulled the rug from out under them in a multi million project. All of which is true. So again what BS are you talking about?


Hey bro! Didn’t wanna leave this as if I was trying to disrespect the Railway Street, but people pretending that an undercover Vice Cop and his Canadian wife, are somehow Sicilian, like people like John Papalia from Railway is insane. The guy never opened his mouth ever, and some cop is like a cousin of this guy lol.

Now, that the Musitano are dead, it’s easy for guys that were nothing when they were around, now walk or talk as if they were the enforcer. It makes Hamilton look like a joke, who cares or works with cops 🚓? It didn’t seems as if real gangster like, work with or are related to cops. Southern Italians for sure, maybe not Canadians or Italos.



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Killing of Pat Musitano business partner has ‘no connection whatsoever’ to mobster’s murder, London police say

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...o-mobsters-murder-london-police-say.html

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Has anyone heard about money owed to NYC, via Sports Book out of Montreal, prior to Rizzuto’s death. Upwards of like 10 million, that was 2014, part of the reason Montanga went to Montreal, as well?

May have been discussed by Rizzuto in his meetings in USA, prior to returning to Canada, as well as when he first returned to Canada 🇨🇦.

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I lost track does anyone has the list of the dozen victims in the war since 2017?


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Didn't see this posted anywhere (I might have missed it) so I'll add it here as it's relevant ... Michael Cudmore, the suspected Angelo Musitano and Mila Barberi triggerman found dead.

Suspect in Angelo Musitano and Mila Barberi homicides found dead in Mexico - CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/suspect-dead-angelo-musitano-mila-barberi-1.5725880

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Originally Posted by Hollander
I lost track does anyone has the list of the dozen victims in the war since 2017?


Quickly what comes to mind without research ...

Angelo Musitano
Pat Musitano
Mila Barberi
Albert Iavarone
Cecce Lupino
Micahel Cudmore
Daniele Ranieri


Uncertain whether the other hits in and around Vaughan/Woodbroge Ontario cafes are related to the war ... such as the Moka Cafe shooting or the Cosimo Comisso hit, (I think that one's related to a wolfpack war) , Verducci,Sergi Domenic Triumbari for example. Antonio Sergi was connected to the weed business in Hamilton and given the initial hit was supposed to be on Serrano (instead they killed his girlfriend) I suspect Sergi's murder is involved just given his association with Serrano and Hamilton.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
I lost track does anyone has the list of the dozen victims in the war since 2017?


Quickly what comes to mind without research ...

Angelo Musitano
Pat Musitano
Mila Barberi
Albert Iavarone
Cecce Lupino
Micahel Cudmore
Daniele Ranieri


Uncertain whether the other hits in and around Vaughan/Woodbroge Ontario cafes are related to the war ... such as the Moka Cafe shooting or the Cosimo Comisso hit, (I think that one's related to a wolfpack war) , Verducci,Sergi Domenic Triumbari for example. Antonio Sergi was connected to the weed business in Hamilton and given the initial hit was supposed to be on Serrano (instead they killed his girlfriend) I suspect Sergi's murder is involved just given his association with Serrano and Hamilton.


Verducci seemed to also have a presence in Hamilton, don’t know for sure?

Also, the timeline for the Sergi murder (April 2017) was right between the attempt on Serrano (March 2017) and the killing of Musitano (May 2017). Sergi, was also killed in his driveway, same as Musitano.

The Cosimo Commisso murder was one that I discussed with others as well, especially after I noticed that Mila Barberi was killed in the Woodbridge, that in such an Italian area of Canada, that a woman would be killed in an OC inferred attempted hit. In Italy 🇮🇹 it’s normal practice to kill women and kids.

Then when, Cosimo Commisso was killed, with the woman, I assumed it was a message from more Southern Italian minded individuals.


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Originally Posted by mobinfiltrator
He was, and I did. Was on Burlington beach and my phone lit up.


Question for @mobinfiltrator or anyone else that might know ... the tie in to the fire on Mellings (Giuseppe Cuntrera's home) who I believe has been on an extended vacation (or was on one at the time) .... related to the Musitano rubout or the Montreal power vacuum?

Only reason I ask is I drive by that street 10 times a week (drove by today which sparked my memory) and true fact, actually being told who lived there was what originally got me into REALLY following true crime

Cheers and thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

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Thanks guys.

The Musitanos are originally from Platì and Delianuova. According to the investigators, they are close to the Mammoliti of Oppido Mamertina and are pretty powerful in Northern Italy. Over there the top guy is Vincenzo Antonio Musitano ( 1962 ) known as Totò Brustia and resident in Vermezzo , son-in-law of Giuseppe Perre, son of Elisabetta Barbaro.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Thanks guys.

The Musitanos are originally from Platì and Delianuova. According to the investigators, they are close to the Mammoliti of Oppido Mamertina and are pretty powerful in Northern Italy. Over there the top guy is Vincenzo Antonio Musitano ( 1962 ) known as Totò Brustia and resident in Vermezzo , son-in-law of Giuseppe Perre, son of Elisabetta Barbaro.


Delianuova is the same place that Antonio Papalia is from as well.


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Article re: murder last July of Grant Norton, who partnered with Pat Musitano in Havana Group Supplies.

Could these images help solve London homicide mystery?

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/could-these-images-help-solve-london-homicide-mystery

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Thanks guys.

The Musitanos are originally from Platì and Delianuova. According to the investigators, they are close to the Mammoliti of Oppido Mamertina and are pretty powerful in Northern Italy. Over there the top guy is Vincenzo Antonio Musitano ( 1962 ) known as Totò Brustia and resident in Vermezzo , son-in-law of Giuseppe Perre, son of Elisabetta Barbaro.


Delianuova is the same place that Antonio Papalia is from as well.


Yes Musitanos and Papalias are originally from the same towns Platì and Delianuova.

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Giuseppe Perre known as “u Maistru” is considered one of the most important bosses.


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Giuseppe (Pino) Avignone pleaded guilty to one count of fraud over $5,000; owes victim $351,000

https://pressreader.com/article/281621013229682

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I lost track does anyone has the list of the dozen victims in the war since 2017?


Quickly what comes to mind without research ...

Angelo Musitano
Pat Musitano
Mila Barberi
Albert Iavarone
Cecce Lupino
Micahel Cudmore
Daniele Ranieri


Uncertain whether the other hits in and around Vaughan/Woodbroge Ontario cafes are related to the war ... such as the Moka Cafe shooting or the Cosimo Comisso hit, (I think that one's related to a wolfpack war) , Verducci,Sergi Domenic Triumbari for example. Antonio Sergi was connected to the weed business in Hamilton and given the initial hit was supposed to be on Serrano (instead they killed his girlfriend) I suspect Sergi's murder is involved just given his association with Serrano and Hamilton.




Giorgio Barresi, a 42-year-old real estate agent of Calabrian origin, was shot and killed last year in Hamilton.


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Article re: murder last July of Grant Norton, who partnered with Pat Musitano in Havana Group Supplies.

Could these images help solve London homicide mystery?

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/could-these-images-help-solve-london-homicide-mystery


Murder, manslaughter charges laid in Grant Edward Norton homicide probe: London police

https://globalnews.ca/news/7959479/...ard-norton-homicide-probe-london-police/

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Court documents reveal new details as charges laid in 2020 homicide

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news...-after-remains-found-in-southeast-london

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Two charged in 2020 homicide of Grant Norton
https://london.ctvnews.ca/two-charged-in-2020-homicide-of-grant-norton-1.5474962

1 arrested for murder, 2 being sought by London police in Grant Edward Norton homicide probe
https://globalnews.ca/news/7962764/arrest-london-police-grant-edwart-norton-homicide-probe/

Another arrest, two suspects wanted in Grant Edward Norton homicide
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/lond...n-grant-edward-norton-homicide-1.6071738

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Who pulled the trigger in a Burlington parking lot?: The anatomy of a hit
https://www.theifp.ca/opinion-story...ington-parking-lot-the-anatomy-of-a-hit/

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Law enforcement was able to determine early on that the murder of Grant Norton was not related to that of Pat Musitano, but the two men definitely had criminal ties.

A body, a barrel and a guilty plea in death of man found by Thames River
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news...ea-in-death-of-man-found-by-thames-river

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No answers in guilty plea in Mob crony Grant Norton's murder.
One man admits to accessory after the fact while others await trial
https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...y-plea-in-mob-crony-grant-nortons-murder

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Judge mulls sentence for career criminal who dumped body by Thames River
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news...criminal-who-dumped-body-by-thames-river

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