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Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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12/12/19 09:26 PM
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Just looked at a few short videos of VLADTV featuring the new interview with Micheal Franzese.
Two things of note;
Is it true that Carmine Persico asked Micheal Franzese in jail to be Acting Boss during the commission trial and keep the seat warm until Little Allie Boy Persico got out??? Think Mike told Persico he couldn't be acting boss because he was taking a plea around that time. Carmine then told Mike; instead he'll name Vic Orena as Acting boss then....
Apparently Micheal Franzese and Vic Orena didn't like eachother. Orena appearently wanted a piece of the gas scam with John Gotti; and was undermining Mike. He was not trusted in the family.
Last edited by Zavattoni; 12/12/19 09:30 PM.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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Just looked at a few short videos of VLADTV featuring the new interview with Micheal Franzese.
Two things of note;
Is it true that Carmine Persico asked Micheal Franzese in jail to be Acting Boss during the commission trial and keep the seat warm until Little Allie Boy Persico got out??? Think Mike told Persico he couldn't be acting boss because he was taking a plea around that time. Carmine then told Mike; instead he'll name Vic Orena as Acting boss then....
Apparently Micheal Franzese and Vic Orena didn't like eachother. Orena appearently wanted a piece of the gas scam with John Gotti; and was undermining Mike. He was not trusted in the family. There was something with the Colombo boys and Sonny’s boys and nephews and others against the Persico’s rise just like it was for the Persico’s toward the Colombo’s boys and Sonny’s . The all had a good chance of rising and Colombo got hit and the Colombo’ boys were pushed around by Persico’s and when Sonny was away Persico’s did same if not for Michael F stated doing wellthey would not of been anything other then Sonny’s notoriety . But the three families were very much at odds and has all to do with Orena not liking that part of the crime family.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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12/13/19 10:23 PM
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@Pmac
I believe your right about Tom DiBella being official boss from 75-80.... So does that mean while Persico was on the streets from 77-79; He was underboss? Mike Franzese in recent interviews talks about Tom DiBella being Boss.
@MightyDr
Yup; I don't have the interview link; but it's definitely in the most recent interview on VLADTV. Persico and Mike were jailed together appearently and Persico asked Mike to be Acting Boss till Allie Boy Jr got out.
Saw another short recent video on VladTV interview with Mike that was interesting. He says he met Gigante a couple of times and that they were close. They did numerous walks and talks together and Franzese says Gigante was smart; lucid and always in control. He also says that Gigante wanted him in the Genovese Family to get away from Persico. Gigante and Persico didn't like eachother... Do anyone know why?? Do they have any history??
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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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12/14/19 12:18 AM
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@Pmac
I thought Persico was out from 77-79. Like 2-3 years. He was jailed in the 80's.
DiBella must have been a old school guy; Well respected by everyone.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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@Pmac
I made a thread a few years ago about Persico and Carlo Gambino's relationship; I think they rarely saw eachother unless I'm wrong?? Persico was in and out of jail...
If they were close; You kind of alluded to their relationship being off the Albert Anastasia hit; which Persico was rumored to be involved in. I have no idea who got rid of Albert Anastasia at that barbershop....
By the way; How was Persico as boss operating in 77-79?? Was he respected by the other family leaders?? Corallo; Castellano; Galante/Rastelli and Salerno/Lombardo?
Read something; Galante and Persico were close and wanted two of their children to marry.
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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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@Pmac
That's interesting; Never knew Carlo and Persico were close in the 60's. I learn something new everyday.
Funzi and Persico; I could see them being close since they were from Brooklyn. Persico was a Brooklyn legend; Heard he did alot for the community...
Wasn't Ally Boy Jr and Galante's daughter suppose to get married?
I like your comparison with Chin and Persico; Both were made in the 50's I believe; Both became Captains in the late 60's. Both became bosses in 1980? 1981? Chin was just smarter tho and had a longer run on the streets.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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@Pmac
That's interesting; Never knew Carlo and Persico were close in the 60's. I learn something new everyday.
Funzi and Persico; I could see them being close since they were from Brooklyn. Persico was a Brooklyn legend; Heard he did alot for the community...
Wasn't Ally Boy Jr and Galante's daughter suppose to get married?
I like your comparison with Chin and Persico; Both were made in the 50's I believe; Both became Captains in the late 60's. Both became bosses in 1980? 1981? Chin was just smarter tho and had a longer run on the streets.
If you look at the old family charts made my Valachi he has Persico in Gambino Family which could have been mkstake or could have been due to them having a relationship.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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@Pmac
That's the first time I've heard Franzese say he disliked Vic Orena also. Vic wanted in on the gas business with John Gotti but Franzese said he wasn't having it. Orena was undermining Mike also...
@Mchang93
I'll have to take a look. Even though Persico had a short reign as boss on the streets; It seems when he was young; He was really out there and earning...
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Persico wanted Micheal Franzese as Acting Boss?
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I haven't seen that part of the interview but I feel that's something Franzese would have mentioned earlier.. Absolutely he would have mentioned it before...This guy's becoming less and less credible every interview !! Most guys are gone or never getting out of the joint so he can embellish more and more . He is making money and it’s getting safer for him as time goes on so he will continue to make himself into more relevant .
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