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Re: Mafia vs Cosa Nostra [Re: Blackmobs] #1036356
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IIRC way before Valachi in Sicily a police informant first mentioned Cosa Nostra so it originated in Sicily.

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Re: Mafia vs Cosa Nostra [Re: Blackmobs] #1036357
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As hardly any member of the American group can actually speak Italian, they can call it what they want...


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Re: Mafia vs Cosa Nostra [Re: Blackmobs] #1040572
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New video of Franseze about the mafia and cosa nostra

Two different organizations

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxu4rhFIPBA

Re: Mafia vs Cosa Nostra [Re: Blackmobs] #1040574
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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
New video of Franseze about the mafia and cosa nostra

Two different organizations

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxu4rhFIPBA


anyway in Sicily it is also called Cosa Nostra

Re: Mafia vs Cosa Nostra [Re: m2w] #1040577
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Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Blackmobs
New video of Franseze about the mafia and cosa nostra

Two different organizations

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxu4rhFIPBA


anyway in Sicily it is also called Cosa Nostra


Yes now, the two organizations have the same name. You can call it the mafia or cosa nostra. But at the beginning, the two were separate.
Al Capone was never a member of the mafia, he was simply an italian gangster. But after the birth of Cosa Nostra, he was a member of the Cosa Nostra.

Mafia was only for sicilians, even in the US.

But with time, and the use of the words by the news, cosa nostra and mafia became synonymous.

Also, with time, mafia became almost a synonym for organized crime, that why people use japanese mafia (yakuza), chinese mafia (triads and tongs), russian mafia (bratva).
Even in italy, some news call the ndrangheta the calabrese mafia and the camorra the naple mafia

You get the point, the use of the word mafia change with time

Even tough mafia should only be use for a type of organization from Sicily with only (or mostly) sicilian members

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