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Re: Mafia and Family Dynasties
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Mafia would not be permitted to "Rub elbows" with the dynasties you mentioned. Do you mean according to the mob's own rules, or that dynasties would just never bother with the mob? I'd have to question the former. I would bet Costello must have had friends in those Rockefeller-type circles. How else would he have obtained the control he did over the courts and political halls? Kind of a small example but Francesco Lanza in San Francisco built Fisherman's Wharf with Giuseppe Aliato, whose son Joe would become mayor, and Lanza was recognized by the Commission as the first real boss out there. Great example. I think that people like the Rockefellers were some of the most powerful and influential people in the world. I don’t see why they would need to bother with the mob because they were more powerful and much wealthier without needing them in the first place. I think there were mobsters who could have reached that level of success eventually but nobody really did.
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Re: Mafia and Family Dynasties
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The mafia in Italy is already well known to either do business or even control the most powerful businessmen and politicians in their country. As well as Russia but to a lesser extent to the Italians. In Russia, the state controls everything , state & secret service have total control of organized crime. Not just in Russia , but whole of Eastern Europe , here u know who is working for secret services, they have police/secret services identifications and they are untouchable What about Mogilevich? He’s controlled by the state?
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Re: Mafia and Family Dynasties
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What about Mogilevich? He’s controlled by the state?
Of course he is,everyone are, you can't come to that level without state/secret services. KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko recorded a tape where he explained how Mogilevich is close to Putin ,he was poisoned shortly after. As i said you,everyone in Eastern Europe are controlled by state/secret services, from most powerful mafia bosses to tycoons. Everyone here knows that , its like public secret. Arkan who was one of most richest people in Eastern Europe and very powerful war lord, started working for secret services as leader of football hooligans. Even today pretty much all leaders of football hooligans here work for secret services.
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Re: Mafia and Family Dynasties
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What about Mogilevich? He’s controlled by the state?
Of course he is,everyone are, you can't come to that level without state/secret services. KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko recorded a tape where he explained how Mogilevich is close to Putin ,he was poisoned shortly after. As i said you,everyone in Eastern Europe are controlled by state/secret services, from most powerful mafia bosses to tycoons. Everyone here knows that , its like public secret. Arkan who was one of most richest people in Eastern Europe and very powerful war lord, started working for secret services as leader of football hooligans. Even today pretty much all leaders of football hooligans here work for secret services. While the Russian state controls everything, it seems like the Italian state and the Italian mafia work together. The American mafia and the government used to work together too. But the American mob doesn’t have that kind of power or money anymore.
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