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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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07/02/16 07:40 PM
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Serp, when did Chris decide to bail? After his brother Nick had that incident with the Merlino crew on Halloween night?
"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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Scarfo Jr. was a stone cold pussy. When his father got locked up, I remember people punching him in his face for general purposes. Im not joking....this guy would cross back and forth 10th street if he saw 2 guys coming his way. People use to literally punch him in the face and tell him to send for his father to suck their dicks. Once Scarfo sr. got booked...that was fucking that, Scarfos had no respect and everyone and their mother who suffered because of Scarfo sr. rejoiced that psychopath was gone.
The user "Serpiente" may have different stories from atlantic city...but i know for a fact in south philly, at that time, the Scarfo's werent liked at all. Joey Merlino took full advantage of this. To be honest, and maybe taking away Joeys credit a little....ANYONE coulda had that power grab and they would have the neighborhood behind them...thats how much Scarfo was hated in south Philly
I remember JR. trying to show his face all over south philly after his dad got booked because he assumed he was gonna be the boss. I saw someone slap him several times to the floor and then the guy leaned in a hawked a loogie right in his face in august of 1989 at Marcones waiting for a hoagie and the dude with Scarfo jr. ran to a pay phone, dialed 911 and said there were black Muslims strapped with AK 47's walking around talking about killing white people.....the whole fucking neighborhood was shut down that day because obviously, none of the scarfos could take a punch. There was police on every damn corner in south philly...and, as an avid pothead at the time, you can see how that can be extremely frustrating. Serp never said the scarfos were liked in south philly..or am i reading ur vibe wrong?? Potheads should not implicate any individuals or their credibility just b-cause of said potheads lack of credence...go smoke ur shit & leave serp out of this.
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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From what I get he's basically asking if Nicky Jr was really a tough guy or just one of those "daddy's boys" and if he was a good earner or not.. I don't see the problem here.
English isn't his first language obviously but Furio's a good guy on these boards. I'm surprised somebody (you) had to "dissect" that for certain people on this forum. Thanks Malandrino. Furio is basically saying was "Nicky jr respected as a real wiseguy/ considered a "hoodlum" on the streets and when I say hoodlum- take gotti jr for example He went around busting heads, abusing people, barking orders and making money. BUT on the streets nobody considered him a "real" hoodlum. Yes he was playing the role of one whereas his father was a stone gangster who would do a thousand yrs standing on his head So not a "dumb" thread at all.
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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Was nicky jr. a real gangster? Well, he made real money. He went to a real prison. He committed real crimes. What do you think?
FWI - no one called Michael T " mad dog". So did Gotti Jr. Your point is.....
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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That stuff with Mark was normal high school shit until his dad gets word or Phil gets word and has to do something before the boys look week .
If not for them growing up in a crime family it would have been regular school yard shit !
And they always make Chris look like a angel and he was right there for years is was not until a certain situation he decided to bail .
The Feds make him look clean cos they could not get nothing on him Chris was / is very shrewd !!! Thanks for the lovely inside info Serp! Never gets old However how comes Nicky Crow said Chris used to get into screaming matches with his dad because he didn't want to be involved. He worked at Scarf inc but didn't want to be around them in a criminal sense & wow, so Phil left out a lot of stuff.... Interesting. Do u think that was a personal choice or the Feds told him so (ie Feds most likely told Sammy not to admit to the Calabro cop murder) etc
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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07/11/16 04:45 AM
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And what makes Nicky senior tough?
His hands? no.
His commitment to the life, to commit murder and not to roll if convicted.
Please explain the difference with his son? Yes I think the case with Nick Jr is that he was eventually a real street guy and he did the crimes/ doing his time as we speak etc So I'll give him that credit But I think Furio or many others base their opinion on the fact he lived off his father's rep early on and even later on- built on his dad's connections to the North Jersey crew plus Luchese (none of it was from his own street cred/ connections) However I guess he did mold into a "real Gangster" in that sense But I wouldn't base it totally on whether one can do time or not. Take crazy Phil his cousin/ was he a real gangster? Since he couldn't do the time does that mean he wasn't a gangster? He was up until the conviction- a stone killer Joey Massino was NOT a gangster in your books (but we all know he was a hardcore gangster) up until they showed him the electric chair & he felt his 300lbs belly wobble
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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07/14/16 10:47 AM
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anybody that takes 9 slugs from a mac.11 earned the right to call themselves whatever
having somebody attempt to kill you over mob shit qualifies him Exactly. Nicky Jr was as "real" as being a "gangster" gets...People fail to realize how hard crime really is, youre living a life where day after day you have to scheme to make a dollar, you have to develop trustworthy relationships, regardless of what your business is, and it's those relationships which save your life and enable you to thrive. Nicky Jr thrived up until the FirstPlus case, which like others have already said, he got comfortable and enabled himself to be caught. I don't particularly believed he sat around thinking "well shit Joey Merlino and his guys, and the Taccetta's don't like me, gotta run", he took his licks, developed the relationships that mattered to him and will forever be looked at as an earner. Even after he was knocked down from capo to soldier, he was still earning and was earning big.
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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Really, so I'm guessing Nicky Jr. was very disliked early on
See- that's the "Nicky Jr" most people still think of and not the middle aged gangster he is now
When Phil flipped, I remember reading how Nicky Jr wanted to get even with his cousin for his father's sake. But I think that was all talk? Because in Phil's book, he claims he went and saw his cousin when visiting mom mom
You are reading Jr right he was not a gangster he love to make money on the keyboard. Ultimately his downfall. So Serp, based on your comments HAD Phil been around (considering u mentioned Scarfo sr) would send him to sort out the school bullies-Mark wouldn't have tried to whack himself He was on his own so to speak and getting abuse from his school mates whilst his dad was on trial. Cousin Phillip was also inside.... Nicky Jr wasn't much of a tough guy hence Mark had no one to turn to
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
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07/15/16 10:56 AM
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It's like Mexico City on Florida Ave these days. So true.
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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07/17/16 06:16 AM
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I would call him a gangster, although he might fall more under the category of a racketeer....
Couple points on the nepotism thing; in Scarfo juniors case, he intelligently took advantage of his fathers stature to build profitable relationships. Now this isn't really just a gangster thing, I would call it life skills in general.
Another thing, it's hard to judge someone without proper perspective, without considering what it's like to be in their shoes.
Think about it, put yourself in one of Scarfos sons shoes, growing up in a house with him. Put yourself in Leonettis shoes at seven years old, and this nut job is telling you he has a body in the trunk, and he's treating you not like a little boy, but a man. How would you react to that shit? Tell him to fuck off? Tell him no I'm going to be a college student someday? Like really think about it, it's like in the movie goodfellas when she says something like, " When you are around it all the time, all this stuff seems normal after awhile"....
Last edited by CabriniGreen; 07/17/16 06:18 AM.
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Re: Nicky Scarfo Jr was a real gangster ?
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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07/09/19 01:52 PM
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Ridiculous thread.
Is Nicky Jnr a real Gangster?
Guys effectively doing life.
Thats faux gangster? Pussy shit? Guy's gonna rat when his dad dies ec etc.
What a joke Well his dads dead and he still didn’t rat lol
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