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Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
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06/01/19 06:33 PM
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JackieAprile
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Let's say history goes the other way, and in late 1976, instead of picking Paul, a dying Carlo Gambino gives his long-standing Underboss, Neil Dellacroce, the nod to succeed him as Boss. Popular history states that most of the bread-and-butter soldiers of the Family, especially of the blue collar wing of the Family, expected (and hoped) that Neil would become Boss after Carlo. Many simply felt that it was natural since he was already Carlo's number two guy since '65. Others felt he deserved it more because he was a gangster as opposed to a racketeer.
The question is, how do you feel history proceeds if Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss of the Family in October 1976? At time of Carlo's death, Neil was in prison on a tax evasion bit, he'd get out around Thanksgiving. He had also done a couple of years earlier in the '70s for contempt.
Does all the Family accept Neil as Boss? Who is Acting Boss for the month long period until Neil gets out of jail in November?
Does the Family do as well financially under a Dellacroce administration as they did under Castellano?
Does he last as long? Longer? Shorter? Does he die in jail, in his bed, or on the streets?
Is it known what his relationships with the Bosses of the other 4 Families as well as Jersey were like? IIRC Paul was fairly well liked on the Commission before becoming Boss, so he was acceptable - what about Neil?
Does he make Gotti his Underboss?
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: JackieAprile]
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11/26/19 02:57 AM
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A little known part of Gambino history is that Neil was apart of a faction led by Armand Rava that tried to go against Carlo when he first took over, it ends when Rava disappears or is killed I can Not remeber which. They were close to Anastasia and the family went thru a mini war that people don't talk or know much about. There are some old articles from a NY newspaper that mentions incidents that happened during this time. Neil was so close to Rava he named his son Armand. He became capo of Rava's crew and Carlo kept him close from then on. I was suprised to learn this because everyone said Neil always went by the rules the old boss is the boss thing but it makes since when u consider how Carlo became boss. Gotti idolized Anastasia people say but took a page out of Don Carlos book on his route to becoming boss. The "rivalry" between the blue collar and white collar factions goes back a ways.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: JackieAprile]
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11/26/19 03:59 AM
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Carlo chose Paul over Neil because Carlo had a plan for where he wanted the Gambino family to go after his death.
Carlo believed that the future of Cosa Nostra lay in legitimate business and Paul was a guy that knew how to make a lot of money from legitimate business.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
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Would Castellano of eventually went after Gotti in the same manner that Gotti went after Castellano? If so how and with who?
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: MolochioInduced]
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11/27/19 11:33 AM
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Would Castellano of eventually went after Gotti in the same manner that Gotti went after Castellano? If so how and with who? I doubt it. It's possible though. Let's say if Gotti was boss in 85' after Neil dies and Paul was a captain; Paul was close to Anthony Gaggi and it's possible a revolt against Gotti could have occured. Some of those white-collar crews would have have never accepted Gotti as Boss.
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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: pmac]
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11/27/19 01:11 PM
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After the stolen car trial which anthony gaggi was his co defendants. Paul was gonna have gaggi killed for all the mistakes he made and shooting the cop he new it to. Sammy is on tape telling gotti how he explained this to gaggi. He fell in line. Demeo was dead in 83 his crew taken apart he was no threat to gottis huge crew in 1985. Gaggi might of fell in line but he never met with Gotti. He was out on the streets for like 3-4 months and refused to meet one time with Gotti; even at the meeting when a majority of the captains came together and made Gotti boss. Gotti was upset but appearently never did anything about it. Yea; Gaggi was no threat but he was mutually respected by the majority of the family and stayed as a captain until he died.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: pmac]
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11/27/19 07:41 PM
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gaggi in dec 85 is out on appeal from state prison for shooting the cop and is on trial in federal court for the stolen car ring. hes probaly on strict bail rules even house arrest. he end up dying in federal prison in 1988 so he must have been convicted in the stolen car trial. he probaly couldnt go to meetings and im sure no one in gotti camp wanted him coming to see him he was to hott. again when gotti had the capo meeting in january 86 gaggi probaly couldnt attend and he was a non factor at that point. his crew was abunch of old timers in brooklyn. all bookies except demeo and his guys how where far gone by 85 86 I think there was one meeting that Gotti got mad about. He told someone "You tell that motherfucker to bring his ass up here and see me; Who the **** do he think he is. Gaggi never showed ... And nothing happened.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
[Re: JackieAprile]
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@JCrusher Yea; Sammy and Frank DeCicco liked Paul at 1st. I think the maid thing really really through Sammy off.
If Neil wasn't Underboss in let's say 1976 when Carlo died. Who do you think would have been another option??
Gaggi? James Failla? Who were other heavy hitters around that time?
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Speculation: Neil Dellacroce becomes Boss in '76
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11/27/19 08:23 PM
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i also kinda figured out why sammy talks so much shit in his book about jimmy brown. jimmy brown was well liked threw out all familys he brought frank deccico into the family. in 1992 93 jimmy was 1/3 in charge of the family he wanted to kill abunch of sammy guy. his brother inlaw, the capo who took over his crew louie and some other guy but john gotti from prison said no and gave them all a pass. jimmy brown wanted them alll dead so its safe to say sammy found out and calls him a pussy in his book and all other stuff. sammy didnt say anything about anyone in his book as bad as he talked about brown You sure about that? He really hated Louis Di Bono. He threatened his life right in front of Paul Castellano during a sit-down IIRC.
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