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Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958948
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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...drugs-to-made-new-york-mafia-member.html

Murdered mob boss’s son pleads guilty in Hamilton to selling

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https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...me-figure-was-underboss-of-buffalo-mafia

Shocking mob trial allegation: Hamilton crime figure was Underboss of Buffalo Mafia

Yep just posted it... Looks like I may have been right.



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Joe Todaro Jr. Still the Boss of the Buffalo Crime Family?

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It was in October 2017, at a meeting in Florida, that Joseph Todaro Jr., the alleged Buffalo boss, told Violi he had hand-picked him, according to wiretap transcripts and summaries entered as exhibits in pre-trial proceedings.

After he told the story to his friend, the New York mobster leaned in and kissed Violi in a traditional show of respect, the Crown’s evidence claimed.

He told Violi it was “in his blood.”


I had a reporter tell me a high ranking guy from Florida came up to “straighten out” some young guys. Wonder if he was talking about this?

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958952
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‘It opens up an underworld:' How a drug plea has exposed a Mafia network in Hamilton

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958953
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i mean its pretty cutt n dry if the violi sons were meeting with todaro they are buffalo lcn guys.

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958954
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great article above. unless this guy is a patholigical liar he told the bonanno guy who recorded his induction cermony he beat out 30 other guys to become the underboss of the buffalo family and the first ever in canada. he was apointed by todaro who i guess is still a boss. cool reading. he likely the feds didnt indict him here on the drugs chages. they would have broke his ass off with like 15 20yrs. he got 8 up there. and does half. i'll have to google this todaro guy i swear there was a picture of him in florida with nick scarfo in the 80tys. he owns that huge pizza chain i believe. but the biggest shocker is the 30 guys up there. wow. gues they were recruiting real quiet. the board said they were dead like a handfull left.

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Originally Posted by pmac
great article above. unless this guy is a patholigical liar he told the bonanno guy who recorded his induction cermony he beat out 30 other guys to become the underboss of the buffalo family and the first ever in canada. he was apointed by todaro who i guess is still a boss. cool reading. he likely the feds didnt indict him here on the drugs chages. they would have broke his ass off with like 15 20yrs. he got 8 up there. and does half. i'll have to google this todaro guy i swear there was a picture of him in florida with nick scarfo in the 80tys. he owns that huge pizza chain i believe. but the biggest shocker is the 30 guys up there. wow. gues they were recruiting real quiet. the board said they were dead like a handfull left.


I've got that picture... But it is of his Dad Joe Sr. I will see if I can find it.

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958961
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oh yeah. theres a todaro jr. hes the boss. i mean he must be if all these agencys are saying he is. the canadian police said he is as of 2016. he was always oin those travel pizza shows on the food network. i wrote about this way back. seems like a nice guy. so im assuming the boss todaro is like boss out of respect and his huge pizza chain company keeps him from asking the troops for alot of money.just gotta give his that respect.intersting.

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Summary of last night's (Dec. 3, 2018) articles:

Now we have the most compelling evidence that the Buffalo crime family is active. More importantly these articles reveal Joe Todaro Jr. is still Buffalo's mob boss. Wiretaps confirm he "hand-picked" Canadian Dominico Violi to be his current underboss. Adrian Humphries writes:

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It was in October 2017, at a meeting in Florida, that Joseph Todaro Jr., the alleged Buffalo boss, told Violi he had hand-picked him, according to wiretap transcripts and summaries entered as exhibits in pre-trial proceedings.

After he told the story to his friend, the New York mobster leaned in and kissed Violi in a traditional show of respect, the Crown’s evidence claimed.

He told Violi it was “in his blood.”

According to both articles putting a Canadian atop a US Cosa Nostra family made history and was so unusual Todaro had to seek permission from the US mob's governing body called "The Commission," which most observers believed was in mothballs. Humphries continues:

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"Domenic, you know you made history," Violi said the alleged boss of the Buffalo Mafia family told him in 2017 after Violi was promoted to the position of Underboss, according to a wire tap summary tendered in court.

Violi asked what he meant.

Nobody in Canada has ever held such a high position, Violi said he was told, according to his own recounting caught on an RCMP recording.

...It was such a unique situation that the Buffalo boss had consulted “the Commission” about it, the conversation continued. The opinion, he said, was that as long as someone is a member of the Mafia he is entitled to hold leadership positions within that family.


The Globe & News seem to indicate there are at least 30 active members whom Violi proudly asserts he beat out for this top spot. Molly Hayes and Greg McArthur write:

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Shortly before his arrest, according to wire transcripts filed in court, Mr. Violi divulged to the police agent that he had been promoted to underboss of the Todaro family – the No. 2 man in charge of the “whole thing.”

It was a prestigious role, he said, and he had beaten out 30 other people for the position.


Evidently a reorganization took place in 2014 when captains were placed over various crews--including a crew in Canada. The Globe and Mail goes on to say, “The reorganization seemed to begin in 2014. “Captains” were allegedly appointed to run crews of soldiers, including one in Hamilton.”

These articles lend credibility to Edwards article and his sources who indicated Buffalo was playing an active role in the current Mob War in Canada.

Here are the links to these two articles:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...me-figure-was-underboss-of-buffalo-mafia

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...rld-how-a-drug-plea-has-exposed-a-mafia/

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958976
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Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958978
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https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/...adas-highest-ranking-american-mob-member

Hamilton Man May Be Canada’s Highest Ranking American Mob Member Ever
Evidence paints, Domenico Violi, a respected Hamilton businessman, as the highest ranking Canadian ever in an American crime family.

Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: pmac] #958980
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Originally Posted by pmac
great article above. unless this guy is a patholigical liar he told the bonanno guy who recorded his induction cermony he beat out 30 other guys to become the underboss of the buffalo family and the first ever in canada. he was apointed by todaro who i guess is still a boss. cool reading. he likely the feds didnt indict him here on the drugs chages. they would have broke his ass off with like 15 20yrs. he got 8 up there. and does half. i'll have to google this todaro guy i swear there was a picture of him in florida with nick scarfo in the 80tys. he owns that huge pizza chain i believe. but the biggest shocker is the 30 guys up there. wow. gues they were recruiting real quiet. the board said they were dead like a handfull left.


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Re: Evidence Violi Brothers are Buffalo C.F. members? [Re: NickleCity] #958984
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Joe Todaro Jr is the boss, I always thought he retired and Frank Bifulco took over. Bonanno and Genovese crime families are in communication with Buffalo so no surprise there, suprised the Buffalo and Colombo families remain in communication.

Others and I have posted that Domenico Violi would be one of the likely candidates for Underboss in Buffalo crime family, the others would have been Monaco, and Natale Luppino in Canada. Rocco Luppino now a Capo.


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I mean this pretty much wraps it up for me...I always believed the locals about the buffalo lcn being active because they live there. There was always going to be one of the so called defunct families that got their shit together and got it going again, looks like buffalo is that family....they might be even more active than Detroit.

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If there's an underboss, there's a consig and mutiple capo's....30 made guys apparently, which means they've had multiple making ceremonies.....we were told and certain people didnt listen...The FBI blah blah blah....well the FBI now look like absolute dicks

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Peter Edwards's latest.

Hamilton trafficking convictions tied to rare Mafia initiation ceremony secretly videotaped by a police informant

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ly-videotaped-by-a-police-informant.html

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so whats ever left of the bonanno family in canada all attended this rat guys induction. wonder whose left. also funny the 1 brother joe violi was torn over to become a boanano member or go with his brother to the buffalo family.

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Originally Posted by pmac
so whats ever left of the bonanno family in canada all attended this rat guys induction. wonder whose left. also funny the 1 brother joe violi was torn over to become a boanano member or go with his brother to the buffalo family.


No.

The most likely living Canadian members of the Bonanno Family are in Quebec. Based on Daniel Renaud's 2016 book, the most likely made Bonannos in the Montreal Mafia as of 2004 would be Vito Rizzuto, Rocco Sollecito, Paolo Renda, Nick Rizzuto Sr., Agostino Cuntrera, Lorenzo Giordano, Joe Di Maulo, Moreno Gallo, Francesco Arcadi, Tony Vanelli, and Tony Mucci. Only the last three individuals are alive, with everyone else being murdered except for Vito Rizzuto. Please note that Renaud identified all these individuals as "Homme d'honneur," i.e., made. I don't know why any of those still alive at the time of Vincenzo Morena's Bonanno taped induction ceremony in Canada in November 2015 would have attended.

There were at least five attendees at the ceremony: Morena, acting Bonanno captain Damiano Zummo, possibly Bonanno consigliere John Zancocchio (not sure he held this rank in November 2015), Domenico Violi, and Giuseppe Violi. Why were the Violi brothers there unless they were made Bonannos at the time? Yet Domenico Violi is heard on tape saying he was inducted into the Buffalo Family in January 2015.

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john zanochio couldnt have gotten into canada. hes done fed time has alot of felonys. i doubt hes sneaking into a country at his age. and dom violi said he was choosen as underboss of the buffalo family in 2015 i, guessing he was made way back atleast in the 90tys. i was assuming all the montreal bonannos were murderd. maybe there was 1 2 guys way under the radar of even other montreal gangsters. maybe they wernt important anuff to go kill. now in this last article it says the induction was at a undisclosed location so will never know if it happend in montreal or hamilton.

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So is the todaro family and magaddino family two separate families?


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Originally Posted by pmac
john zanochio couldnt have gotten into canada. hes done fed time has alot of felonys. i doubt hes sneaking into a country at his age. and dom violi said he was choosen as underboss of the buffalo family in 2015 i, guessing he was made way back atleast in the 90tys. i was assuming all the montreal bonannos were murderd. maybe there was 1 2 guys way under the radar of even other montreal gangsters. maybe they wernt important anuff to go kill. now in this last article it says the induction was at a undisclosed location so will never know if it happend in montreal or hamilton.


No, Domenico Violi claims to have become underboss of the Buffalo Family in October 2017. He also claims he was made into the Buffalo Family in January 2015.

Which Bonanno soldier with first name "John" could have been at the induction ceremony in Canada in November 2015? I'm genuinely curious. Below is an excerpt from Adrian Humphreys's November 10, 2017 article.

The induction, involving at least five men, was allegedly presided over by Damiano Zummo, 44, an acting captain in the Bonanno crime family.

"The reason why we're here is from this day forward, you're gonna be an official member of the Bonanno family," Zummo says, according to a transcript of the ceremony.

"It's already - from this guy, this guy, this guy - everybody approved it, so from this day forward, you're a member of the Bonanno family. Congratulations," said Zummo.

"Thank you," the recruit said.

The new member was then formally introduced to other members using the traditional Mafia code of calling a made man a "friend of ours," and then told the internal hierarchy of who he reports to, called a captain or skipper.

"And now I want to introduce you to John. John, friend of ours with the Bonanno. John, (name of agent deleted), friend of ours with the Bonanno. Now, your captain is (name deleted.)" "Okay," said the recruit. "He's our skipper.

(Nickname of Bonanno member deleted), is our acting ... You're gonna be in our regime," Zummo allegedly said. "OK." "You only answer to the Bonanno family."

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if he was inducted in 2015 then made underboss 2yrs later the family must be in bad shape. he must have been atleast made 10 20 yrs back. the guy john porky hes like 60 hes done alot of time. how would he get into the country. they wont let people with a dui across there boarder. also from reading the guy porky is well off rich cant see him with a bunch of drug dealing guys in the 30tys early 40tys

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Originally Posted by NickleCity
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great article above. unless this guy is a patholigical liar he told the bonanno guy who recorded his induction cermony he beat out 30 other guys to become the underboss of the buffalo family and the first ever in canada. he was apointed by todaro who i guess is still a boss. cool reading. he likely the feds didnt indict him here on the drugs chages. they would have broke his ass off with like 15 20yrs. he got 8 up there. and does half. i'll have to google this todaro guy i swear there was a picture of him in florida with nick scarfo in the 80tys. he owns that huge pizza chain i believe. but the biggest shocker is the 30 guys up there. wow. gues they were recruiting real quiet. the board said they were dead like a handfull left.


I attached the picture


Nikel I have to say we have been VINDICATED!!!

I got beat up on these boards because of my theory that Buffalo wasn't defunct.

This was before the Violi arrests, I read the book Dicarlo and said to myself these guys wouldn't let this pipeline go, you can't replace something like that.

This MUTT Nicky from Tampa tried to abuse me.

Than the Violi's got arrested.

Then the Mustiano got killed and we started seeing some articles etc

Now we have wire tap evidence.

Me and Nickel, said who would be the Todaro guys if not Violi.

Nickel I am making the call the TODARO Family is NOT DEFUCT they do exist in some capicity.

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So is the todaro family and magaddino family two separate families?


Why do you think that? Another name for the Buffalo family is The Arm, always liked that.


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If there's an underboss, there's a consig and mutiple capo's....30 made guys apparently, which means they've had multiple making ceremonies.....we were told and certain people didnt listen...The FBI blah blah blah....well the FBI now look like absolute dicks


the buffalo family is active only on canadian side (hamilton/niagara falls), that's why fbi said there was not any family in buffalo

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Originally Posted by m2w
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If there's an underboss, there's a consig and mutiple capo's....30 made guys apparently, which means they've had multiple making ceremonies.....we were told and certain people didnt listen...The FBI blah blah blah....well the FBI now look like absolute dicks


the buffalo family is active only on canadian side (hamilton/niagara falls), that's why fbi said there was not any family in buffalo


They are active in the states.


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I think the Canadian faction is probably more into drugs, so they get caught/talked about more. The American side of things is probably more gambling and shylocking, therefore less attention and more unknown. Sure there's probably not some secret army of American buffalo guys killing people and selling tons of coke, but i can't see the Violi's and the Canadian faction showing so much respect for Todaro if there wasn't a sizeable and relevant American component of the family. The buffalo connections probably appealed to the Violi's still in this day and age because of the good connections to the other side of the border, so easier to transport drugs across the border. It seems like they got maybe a couple of crews in Buffalo itself, so maybe give or take 10 made guys and a bunch of associates in Buffalo, and a couple of satellite crews in upstate New York, and the powerful Canadian crew.

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Originally Posted by mike89
If there's an underboss, there's a consig and mutiple capo's....30 made guys apparently, which means they've had multiple making ceremonies.....we were told and certain people didnt listen...The FBI blah blah blah....well the FBI now look like absolute dicks


the buffalo family is active only on canadian side (hamilton/niagara falls), that's why fbi said there was not any family in buffalo


They are active in the states.


if todaro jr is the boss yes, anyway less active than canadian side
in the wiretaps violi said the buffalo family has 30 members, but probably only 10 in buffalo and the rest in canada
the canadian side show respect to todaro because he's supported by the new york families and the bonanno's and gambino's are active in canada

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Credit goes to the Todaros. They were the most stable bosses since Magaddino.

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