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another mob guy murdered #953085
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in Ancaster Canada

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953086
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Murders only ever seem to take place in Canada now.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Murders only ever seem to take place in Canada now.


Good thing all the people now days will be having protests!

Back in the day you minded your own ! Never seen a problem with a guy that minded his own.....


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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953093
09/14/18 10:44 AM
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Ancaster is a neighbourhood of Hamilton. I hear it was Al Iavarone. Anyone know him?


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On internet is said that the dead was a 50 y old man from
Sunflower Crescent,why do you think he was a mobster?

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: furio_from_naples] #953095
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
On internet is said that the dead was a 50 y old man from
Sunflower Crescent,why do you think he was a mobster?

A few local media outlets are reporting a Hamilton police source has said it was a known mobster.


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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953096
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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953097
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A little over 15 minutes ago, Paul Manning tweeted about this murder. See https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/status/1040636936497582080.

The copy in the tweet is below (just in case he deletes his tweet).

Source provided intel last nights #homicide in #ancaster, #hamont was #mafia retaliation for #angmusitano #murder.

Apparently not shooter but relative gunned down.

This is not finished.

12:22 PM - 14 Sep 2018

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953098
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If it's a retaliation for the Musitano hit this makes so much sense. Get this, if the murdered person is Al Iavarone, he's a real estate agent agent:

https://www.royallepage.ca/en/agent/ontario/hamilton/al-iavarone/13685/

Notice the company he works for, now notice this fella from the same exact company and location:

https://www.royallepage.ca/en/agent/ontario/hamilton/giacomo-luppino/19302/

This is a hit on the Luppino family.

Edit: looking into Giacomo Luppino's Facebook page and seeing g some of the pictures on there definitely makes me think hes some sort of boss.

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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953113
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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953117
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Internal dispute is a possibility.


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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953123
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Here's one link to the Hamilton Police Service's news conference earlier this afernoon:

https://www.facebook.com/CHCHTelevision/videos/742478372759898/

Skip through to the 4:43 mark, as everything before that is blank.

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953135
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Ancaster man’s murder is ‘retaliation’ for 2017 mob hit: former undercover cop

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/09/14/hamilton-police-probing-ancaster-homicide.html

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: antimafia] #953140
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Originally Posted by antimafia
Ancaster man’s murder is ‘retaliation’ for 2017 mob hit: former undercover cop

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/09/14/hamilton-police-probing-ancaster-homicide.html


This Toronto Star article you posted clarifies a little bit better the situation.

I was perplexed as to why there hasn't been more shootings since the Cosimo homicide.

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953145
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This is most likely is a power struggle happening in Hamilton. For the longest time the Musitano family enjoyed their power because Vito was alive. Ever since his death and the power struggle in Montreal, the Luppino family being their rivals are trying to take over the area and eliminate them.

I know a lot of people mention that there are 3 families in Hamilton with Pappalia often mentioned, but it's unclear if the Pappalias are a separate independent family, or a Buffalo crew, or simply they don't exist and are just part of the same Luppino family. Remember that the Violi brothers may very well be leading this Pappalia group, and their grandfather on their mother's side is Giacomo Luppino, so it's most likely just two families that exist and are fighting for the city control.


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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: BronaZora] #953151
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I agree, It makes a lot of sense.

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953156
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The confusing thing to me is do the Hamilton groups follow LCN protocol or 'ndrangheta?


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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953169
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I was always under the impression that Ontario is primarily Calabrian territory - even though the Sicilians have tried to make inroads there.

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: Hollander] #953172
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Originally Posted by Hollander
The confusing thing to me is do the Hamilton groups follow LCN protocol or 'ndrangheta?


They probably follow both based on convenience. Keep in mind that these groups are originally Calabrese and have 'Ndrangheta ties and roots, but when they were migrating to Canada, the area was under the American Mob control, which has LCN roots.

Technically speaking, the Buffalo family called the shots in Southern Ontario back in the day. All these families answered to Magaddino one way or another. Eventually the American LCN weakened while these groups strengthened their ties with their original families back home that were becoming more powerful. The independence in Montreal started a lot sooner, and eventually it happened in Southern Ontario too when Vito decided to take out Pappalia. That was pretty much the end of Buffalo's control. The Musitano decided to be connected with the Rizzutos, which were LCN.

Now you have the Luppino family, which are independent and do have 'Ndrangheta roots, but they probably have a lot of members among them (Like the Violi son's for example) that still carry the Pappalia banner to keep ties to the American LCN through Buffalo. I mean it's better to have more allies and connections than not, so Im sure something of such nature is taking place.

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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953182
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Thanks BZ, that makes sense. I'm sure the bosses in Calabria hear about these events through the grapevine. They are meeting these days in San Luca.

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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953183
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So it's established, the buffalo family is active? Nevermind, forget I asked 🤐


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https://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/o...f-angelo-musitano/#.W50XrsxghmA.linkedin

Stephen G. Metelsky, M.A. did this story a while back - great read if you want a starting point for yesterday's mob hit in Hamilton.

Whacked in Waterdown: The Murder of Angelo Musitano

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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953194
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Older article from April of this year.Tthe home where the victim was stabbed is owned by the Luppino family.

Police probing “targeted” home invasion on Mountain

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8560499-police-probing-targeted-home-invasion-on-mountain

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I became aware of the article because a Twitter user posted a link while communicating with Stephen G. Metelsky and Paul Manning.

Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: bronx] #953196
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If was a retaliation why kill a real estate agent?

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Older article from April of this year.Tthe home where the victim was stabbed is owned by the Luppino family.

Police probing “targeted” home invasion on Mountain

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8560499-police-probing-targeted-home-invasion-on-mountain

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I became aware of the article because a Twitter user posted a link while communicating with Stephen G. Metelsky and Paul Manning.


Good find.

Knowing all these past incidents that occurred, I question why these guys answer doors blindly and have no body guard protection.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
If was a retaliation why kill a real estate agent?


Do you really think that was his only job ?



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Re: another mob guy murdered [Re: Ciment] #953214
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Originally Posted by Ciment
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If was a retaliation why kill a real estate agent?


Do you real think that was his only job ?




So maybe was a killer.

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Cosa Nostra News article states:

That there are 3 families in Hamilton
Two of them are tied to American LCN

Obviously Bonnano and Todaro...
The third tied to the Rizzuto's the Mustiano Family

The two are taking out the Mustiano Family for two reasons:

1) Pay back
2) Take advantage of the situation

The Violios we know are Todaro family...

It looks like the picture is starting to come together up north

The Rizzuto's and their allies figured they didn't need American LCN backing....

That was a big mistake

Mustiano's rode the Rizzuto's coat tails, now that they are out of power they have no backing...

They are done

You see the Bananno's having making ceremonies in canada now and they are getting indicted with the Violio's and Gambino's....

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