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So besides Sonny who else is up there in their mid to late 90s? I remember seeing a few charts and there were some guys 93, 95 etc but didn't know them well.. ?

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Sonny is an exception because most mobsters or are retired or died before arrive to 90 y. Only 2 come to mind: Bobby Manna (b.1928) but stay in prison or John Commarato (b.1924) a colombo wiseguy and former Gallo crew members but I think he is retired.

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nice.

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If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going

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Originally Posted by Japseye1
If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going


Albert Gallo (b.1930) was the only survived and is a genovese capo.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Japseye1
If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going


Albert Gallo (b.1930) was the only survived and is a genovese capo.


yes that's who it is. Shit he must have some stories

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what's the story on John Commarato anything interesting

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The others come to mind are:

Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio (born June 23, 1927)
Gaetano "Corky" Vastola (born May 20, 1928)

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Japseye1
If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going


Albert Gallo (b.1930) was the only survived and is a genovese capo.


Where did you hear he is a capo?

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Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
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Originally Posted by Japseye1
If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going


Albert Gallo (b.1930) was the only survived and is a genovese capo.


Where did you hear he is a capo?


In a pogo chart in the bill feather's genovese chart.

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Charlie "Moose" Panarella is 93 and still active, at least officially.


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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Japseye1
If I remember correctly Joe Gallos brothers are still going


Albert Gallo (b.1930) was the only survived and is a genovese capo.


One of the Gallo brothers is still alive? That guy has some stories.


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Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo, Jr. is a New York mobster of the Genovese crime family. Wikipedia
Born: June 6, 1930 (age 88 years), Red Hook, New York City, NY
Parents: Mary Gallo, Umberto Gallo
Siblings: Joe Gallo, Larry Gallo, Carmello Fiorello
Nieces: Lisa Essary-Gallo, Joie Gallo


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The oldest living prisoner in the US is Salvatore Sparacio from Philly he would be 96.


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Is Albert Gallo still active in the Mafia? I remember reading about him owning. restaurant across the street from where his brother was killed, but I read it at least five years ago.

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It would be nice to see a list of those who are the oldest active and inactive members still alive, listed by cities.

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First List,but this is a work in progress


http://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2018/06/bonanno-family-list-2014.html*
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=627933**

Name DOB Family Status

Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo, Jr. - June 6, 1930 Genovese Active
Salvatore Sparacio 1922 Philly IP (05/04/2020)
Joseph "the Clown" Lombardo January 1, 1929 Chicago Outfit IP (LIFE)
Steven Maruca 1928 Bonanno ???
Salvatore Caccamise 1925 Bonnano Active*
John Commarato 1924 Colombo ????
Louis Piancone 1929 Colombo ???
John "Sonny" Franzese February 6, 1917 Colombo Retired
William "Billy Lee" Loiacano 1927 Detroit Retired**

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Here is a few.
Donato Ditri- 87, San Jose, Retired
Mike Pauldino- 95, Denver, Retired
Paul Silvio- 90, Kansas City, Retired
Thomas Cannizzaro- 92, Milwaukee, retired
Ronald Carabbia- 89, Cleveland,
Thomas Ciancutti- 89, Pittsburgh
Dominic Rugnetta- 94, Philadelphia, retired
Steve Maruca- 90, Bonanno
William Riviello- 88, Bonanno
Salvatore Caccamise- 95, Bonanno, semi-retired
James Caserta- 94, Genovese, retired
Phil Bonadonna- 86, Genovese, semi-retired
Salvatore Aparo- 89, Genovese, retired

There are a lot more.


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"Retired"?

I thought there was only one way to leave the life.

In a body bag.

If I was boss, I don't care if they're 37 or 97, I don't care if they're wearing a catheter, I don't care if they're legally blind, if I give them orders to bust someone up, they're going to bust someone up or they'll get busted up.


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Here is a few.
Donato Ditri- 87, San Jose, Retired
Mike Pauldino- 95, Denver, Retired
Paul Silvio- 90, Kansas City, Retired
Thomas Cannizzaro- 92, Milwaukee, retired
Ronald Carabbia- 89, Cleveland,
Thomas Ciancutti- 89, Pittsburgh
Dominic Rugnetta- 94, Philadelphia, retired
Steve Maruca- 90, Bonanno
William Riviello- 88, Bonanno
Salvatore Caccamise- 95, Bonanno, semi-retired
James Caserta- 94, Genovese, retired
Phil Bonadonna- 86, Genovese, semi-retired
Salvatore Aparo- 89, Genovese, retired

There are a lot more.


William Riviello died in 2014.
Salvatore Caccamise died in 2011.
Salvatore Aparo died last year.

Steve Maruca is not a known member according to the released 2014 FBI chart of known Bonanno members.

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My gangland scripr finally died i lost my credit card had it replaced so it didnt keep renewing. Last i read sal aparo died 1 2 yrs ago capeci said he was on the shelf

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He said barney put him there but i think leo did. Im guessing leos boss barneys under or some flipping way. He did say that guy acting boss or some shit caller petey red showed up to wake.aparo was a herion guy according to darco but so was barney who was recorded in 1986 by fish cafaro in a 2 kilo dope deal but it was dismissed after fish said he wouldnt testify

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Originally Posted by pmac
My gangland scripr finally died i lost my credit card had it replaced so it didnt keep renewing. Last i read sal aparo died 1 2 yrs ago capeci said he was on the shelf


He died last year.

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Why was he on the shelf?

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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
"Retired"?

I thought there was only one way to leave the life.

In a body bag.

If I was boss, I don't care if they're 37 or 97, I don't care if they're wearing a catheter, I don't care if they're legally blind, if I give them orders to bust someone up, they're going to bust someone up or they'll get busted up.


Good idea.If a wiseguy see an old man in wheelchair he won't think that the granpa have a machine gun under the blanket on his legs and bada Bim bada bang the other wiseguy is dead. lol lol lol

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Wasn't Sonny Franzese still locked up at aged 101? "Old" gangster is an oxymoron, no?


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Originally Posted by Stugotz
Wasn't Sonny Franzese still locked up at aged 101? "Old" gangster is an oxymoron, no?


He was released last year, aged 100.

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Does anybody remember that Genovese wise guy a few years back who was like nearly 100 offering to do hits? He died few years back also. The same guy was said to be a moaner who wanted more power but never got past soldier. Whoever remembers the name has a good memory because he wasn’t that big news and I can’t remember for the life of me. The name corky rings a bell but I can only think of corky vastola who obviously isn’t the guy

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chinky fsomthing. he was in his 90tys but it seemed when everyone was in florida they checked in with him. he was spotted meeting al bruno and buster ardito a few months before bruno got whacked. busters phone was a roving bugg the feds picked up ardito saying chinky vollunteerd to do a hit could you imagine me and him going to do work the gun would shoot him away. somthing among them lines. the capo of all the old retired ny nj guys in florida was a rey ruggiero who fliped after he was convicted for racteering down there they gave him 12 yrs he was in his late 70tys couldnt do the time. he must have gave them alot of info he died a few yrs back i dont no if he was free i think so they resentenced him why wouldnt they but florida feds dont go along with everyhting the d.a.s say down there or i should say the judges. they break mobsters off down there always 10 or better

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is the frank the firman porco still alive i was just reading a old vinny gorgrous article he wanted his crew to beat up porco over a gambling beef. talk about no respect for your elders. guess he was a spero bk guy hed be in late 80tys. i wonder who the bonannos old guy still living like its the old days guy is. rabito

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andy russo the on again off is committed to the mafia he dont get to fucks dieing in jail or not. hes getting up there

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I wonder what they mean my still active especially for those over 70. BY 80 I think active might mean showing up to check in on occasions. Then they go home and fall asleep.

Does anyone have a picture of the Albert Gallo group member named Punchy who had his photo taken in front of what appeared to be a social club? He was asleep in a chair. I believe it was taken a year before his death.

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Active means they are still participating in crimes. Even at 80 a guy you can be part of it.

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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
Does anybody remember that Genovese wise guy a few years back who was like nearly 100 offering to do hits? He died few years back also. The same guy was said to be a moaner who wanted more power but never got past soldier. Whoever remembers the name has a good memory because he wasn’t that big news and I can’t remember for the life of me. The name corky rings a bell but I can only think of corky vastola who obviously isn’t the guy


George Barone ?

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Originally Posted by jace
I wonder what they mean my still active especially for those over 70. BY 80 I think active might mean showing up to check in on occasions. Then they go home and fall asleep.


by law enforcement standards if an 85 year old guy got caught speaking to a made guy in the street he would be considered "active"

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John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.




Ianiello may have been still participating, but Franzeze has not for years. He was in prison for so long, and the case that sent him back was more a case of them waiting him locked up for spite. There is no evidence of him being active now.

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That’s the guy chinky! U have a good memory pmac.

And regarding the other guy - why would a lifelong mob guy whos that old rat? U only have a few more years just live it out in pen and die respectable and loved in your chosen profession/lifestyle.

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Not that I’m condoning that lifestyle (before any busybody gets on me). Just if they live for that it’s too late to rat just as your about to die is all, just to avoid prison..

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John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.




Ianiello may have been still participating, but Franzeze has not for years. He was in prison for so long, and the case that sent him back was more a case of them waiting him locked up for spite. There is no evidence of him being active now.


Wrong as usual.


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John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.




Ianiello may have been still participating, but Franzeze has not for years. He was in prison for so long, and the case that sent him back was more a case of them waiting him locked up for spite. There is no evidence of him being active now.


Wrong as usual.



Wrong how?

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Does anyone have a picture of the Albert Gallo group member named Punchy who had his photo taken in front of what appeared to be a social club? He was asleep in a chair. I believe it was taken a year before his death.


If this is the picture you are referring to it's of Dom DiQuarto not Punchy Illiano


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That's not it, there is another one of Illiano, who is more slumped dover in his chair, and does not look like that guy in photo.

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That's not it, there is another one of Illiano, who is more slumped dover in his chair, and does not look like that guy in photo.


There is a photo of Illiano slumped over in the chair, with a skinny grey haired man looks like he is walking towards him as if to awaken him or straighten him up.


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John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.




Ianiello may have been still participating, but Franzeze has not for years. He was in prison for so long, and the case that sent him back was more a case of them waiting him locked up for spite. There is no evidence of him being active now.


Wrong as usual.



Wrong how?


Jace is (pretty much) right. The crimes John Franzese were charged with in 2010 were from, at the latest, 2007, which is when John Franzese Jr. was taken off the streets when he completed his undercover work.

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That’s the guy chinky! U have a good memory pmac.

And regarding the other guy - why would a lifelong mob guy whos that old rat? U only have a few more years just live it out in pen and die respectable and loved in your chosen profession/lifestyle.


So you meant Andy Russo? I suggested George Barone but then you said a guy nearly in his 100s so I thought Albert Facchino who was indicted at 96

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That’s his full name japs! - facchiano is who I meant. He said he would whack someone if he got the order in his 90s!

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Originally Posted by jace
That's not it, there is another one of Illiano, who is more slumped dover in his chair, and does not look like that guy in photo.


Wow I thought for sure that was the picture you were talking about. How many pictures are there of guys sitting in front of a social club asleep in a chair lol. I guess more than one.

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theres a picture of that guy punchy taking a nap somewhere on here. its not that old its in red hook or carol gradens infront of a deli i think. it was posted in gangland when he died a few yrs back. small side story vic orena swore revenge on punchy and kid blast and i think those 2 didnt get inducted into the genovese family til after orena got life. the colombos would block them everytime there names floated around. they must have killed someone close to vic cause its pissed him off. when he was acting boss he said to someone he get them back 1 day

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for turning there back on the family. gets its was a slight

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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
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That's not it, there is another one of Illiano, who is more slumped dover in his chair, and does not look like that guy in photo.


Wow I thought for sure that was the picture you were talking about. How many pictures are there of guys sitting in front of a social club asleep in a chair lol. I guess more than one.



Probably enough for a picture thread. I believe there are hundreds of pictures never released for every one they release.

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It would be nice to hear from these guys before they die especially Sonny Franzese, Charles Panarella, Albert Gallo, Corky, Baby Shacks and few others. I thought about writing to some of the guys while they are in prison and see what they say. I don't know what it is but I always found it very fascinating about these guys the last men standing who go back to a bygone era, most of them were arrested in the 30s and 40s, the transformation to today is huge

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Charles Panarella already passed away this past July in Nevada, leaving only Donnie Shacks the only known made member of the Colombo crime family on the west coast.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

For those who haven't seen it...this was posted on this board about a year ago. Charlie Moose Panarella talking with his lawyer. Starts at 36:31

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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

For those who haven't seen it...this was posted on this board about a year ago. Charlie Moose Panarella talking with his lawyer. Starts at 36:31


That was when Panarella was not confined to a scooter, with an oxygen tank on back. Can you imagine The Moose chasing down someone who owes him money in that?


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Not denying this but how do you know he died? there is absolutely nothing online about his death and the fact that we were speaking about him IN JULY makes it seem odd

also I think getting a guy in his 90s to kill someone is a great idea. The victim wouldn't suspect anything. Someone like Charles would just need a gun and when the other guy has his face turned round or something then a couple shots in the face and head. But no a 90+ guy wouldn't be able to chase a guy down for money lol obviously not

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Originally Posted by Japseye1
Not denying this but how do you know he died? there is absolutely nothing online about his death and the fact that we were speaking about him IN JULY makes it seem odd

also I think getting a guy in his 90s to kill someone is a great idea. The victim wouldn't suspect anything. Someone like Charles would just need a gun and when the other guy has his face turned round or something then a couple shots in the face and head. But no a 90+ guy wouldn't be able to chase a guy down for money lol obviously not


Gang Land News wrote an obituary on him.

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Not denying this but how do you know he died? there is absolutely nothing online about his death and the fact that we were speaking about him IN JULY makes it seem odd

also I think getting a guy in his 90s to kill someone is a great idea. The victim wouldn't suspect anything. Someone like Charles would just need a gun and when the other guy has his face turned round or something then a couple shots in the face and head. But no a 90+ guy wouldn't be able to chase a guy down for money lol obviously not


Gang Land News wrote an obituary on him.


Another one down I guess

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

For those who haven't seen it...this was posted on this board about a year ago. Charlie Moose Panarella talking with his lawyer. Starts at 36:31

That was very interesting Mike..thank u ..I liked it from start to finish.


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

For those who haven't seen it...this was posted on this board about a year ago. Charlie Moose Panarella talking with his lawyer. Starts at 36:31

That was very interesting Mike..thank u ..I liked it from start to finish.


No problem Hood I’m glad you enjoyed it as I did.

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No one mentioned Dominick Cirillo or Mario Gigante... Mario is about 94

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Cirillo and Gigante are both retired.


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John McCain's mother is 106 and still relatively lucid.

An 85 year old can still contribute in some way - like a Franzese or an Ianniello.

It's not like the 55 year olds are out breaking thumbs either.




Ianiello may have been still participating, but Franzeze has not for years. He was in prison for so long, and the case that sent him back was more a case of them waiting him locked up for spite. There is no evidence of him being active now.


Wrong as usual.



Wrong how?


Wrong as in the Feds didn't lock him up for "spite". Don't be ridiculous.


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They did it on spite, using your word, or just for the sake of it. Any excuse, they wanted him. They may lock him up again if a person says he gave them a wrong look, they'll call him. threat to the community and send him away again.

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When you make outlandish statements, the onus is on you to prove them. Until you do, you are wrong.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
When you make outlandish statements, the onus is on you to prove them. Until you do, you are wrong.


I am not wrong at all. He was over 90 and they were saying he was a threat??? Please!

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When you make outlandish statements, the onus is on you to prove them. Until you do, you are wrong.


I am not wrong at all. He was over 90 and they were saying he was a threat??? Please!


Elaborate. You seem certain that you are right. If that is the case, then surely you can furnish us with proof?


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When you make outlandish statements, the onus is on you to prove them. Until you do, you are wrong.


I am not wrong at all. He was over 90 and they were saying he was a threat??? Please!


Elaborate. You seem certain that you are right. If that is the case, then surely you can furnish us with proof?



I did, you prove me wrong.

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And in the future Moe, do not have your friend pm me and try to get me to back down on you.

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When you make outlandish statements, the onus is on you to prove them. Until you do, you are wrong.


I am not wrong at all. He was over 90 and they were saying he was a threat??? Please!


Elaborate. You seem certain that you are right. If that is the case, then surely you can furnish us with proof?



I did, you prove me wrong.


How did you prove your statement to be correct? You said the Feds locked him up for spite, without providing any evidence whatsoever.

I could say I have a sixpack and look like Brad Pitt. It doesn't mean it's true.


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An din the future Moe, do not have your friend pm me and try to get me to back down on you.


Or, you have offended several regular posters on the forum with your blatant trolling, inability to back up statements, and latent homophobia.

I'm not the only poster you have an issue with.

I sense a pattern..


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An din the future Moe, do not have your friend pm me and try to get me to back down on you.


Or, you have offended several regular posters on the forum with your blatant trolling, inability to back up statements, and latent homophobia.

I'm not the only poster you have an issue with.

I sense a pattern..



I sense a desperate liar grasping for straws.

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An din the future Moe, do not have your friend pm me and try to get me to back down on you.


Or, you have offended several regular posters on the forum with your blatant trolling, inability to back up statements, and latent homophobia.

I'm not the only poster you have an issue with.

I sense a pattern..



I sense a desperate liar grasping for straws.


You mentioned yourself that there are numerous posters complaining about you in private messages. You seem to enjoy causing disruption to the forum?

You do know private messages are supposed to be private, right?


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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An din the future Moe, do not have your friend pm me and try to get me to back down on you.


Or, you have offended several regular posters on the forum with your blatant trolling, inability to back up statements, and latent homophobia.

I'm not the only poster you have an issue with.

I sense a pattern..



I sense a desperate liar grasping for straws.


You mentioned yourself that there are numerous posters complaining about you in private messages. You seem to enjoy causing disruption to the forum?

You do know private messages are supposed to be private, right?



Wrong again, or lying. I mentioned one persons and kept their name and what was said private. The problem is you, don't deflect things.

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CUT IT OUT, YOU TWO! Take this off the boards!


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CUT IT OUT, YOU TWO! Take this off the boards!




SC, will you at least tell me if my comment here on Gene Gotti coming home after 30 years in prison was wrong? HIs saying. it was out of line is what started this on another thread.


"Culture shock might kill him. 30 years away is a long time. The Ravenite is long gone, I think it may have been gone when he went away to prison. Ozone Park is totally different and even his neighbors will have died or moved away. His family has changed, many have probably died. If he goes to Mulberry Street I would think he won't recognize most of it anymore due to changes. He went away when cell phones were a new thing and cameras were not everywhere. It will take him a few months just to get used to society as it is now. When he sees two men pushing a stroller with a baby in it, and asks who the father is and gets "We both are" as a response, followed by the two men kissing and walking on, he may faint. He'll need a relative to show him around his first times out of the house."


I feel it was a fair comment, he called me homophobic. If you say it was out of line, I will apologize.

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Well don't know if my opinion mean any matters to you guys but I'll step in and say that in my opinion you weren't homophobic at all jace
I don't know if I should refer to you as a she or he (I have a feeling you are a woman so)
But I can't see why someone should get offended by it,
And I understand what you have said.
That was okay and it's normal that after 30 years in jail you will be shocked from all the changes that went in the world.
and by the way moe you know I love your posts you are one of my favorites members here so it's not that I'm taking any side here in this debate/argument between you guys.
Just wanted to say my opinion.

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Not denying this but how do you know he died? there is absolutely nothing online about his death and the fact that we were speaking about him IN JULY makes it seem odd

also I think getting a guy in his 90s to kill someone is a great idea. The victim wouldn't suspect anything. Someone like Charles would just need a gun and when the other guy has his face turned round or something then a couple shots in the face and head. But no a 90+ guy wouldn't be able to chase a guy down for money lol obviously not


Gang Land News wrote an obituary on him.


Another one down I guess



Who is this Charles that gang land news made an obituary?

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Panarella, Furio.

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This was the thread I found that video thanks Giovanni

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Originally Posted by NickyfromTampa
Panarella, Furio.


Ah ok. I even think that was still alive.

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Based on the Gottis' photos from the 70s, I think they'd adapt to gay culture just fine.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Charlie "Moose" Panarella was talked about in the Donnie Brasco book and he's still alive.

Donnie Brasco said that Moose Panarella was a mean guy and a high ranking capo in the Colombo family. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Based on the Gottis' photos from the 70s, I think they'd adapt to gay culture just fine.


We should do a canvas of neighborhoods in NYC and ask people who they would rather have as a neighbor: a heroin dealing criminal or a gay couple.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Based on the Gottis' photos from the 70s, I think they'd adapt to gay culture just fine.


We should do a canvas of neighborhoods in NYC and ask people who they would rather have as a neighbor: a heroin dealing criminal or a gay couple.




It's been several days why bring it up again. End it.

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I was responding to Oak. It had nothing to do with you.


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Anyone see the documentary about living celebrities over 90? It's called "If You're Not in the Obit, Eat Breakfast". As Tony Soprano would say, "Itsh goot".

Dick Van Dyke has more energy than I do.


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Anyone find out info about Larry Dentico b. 1923 - I read he was made under Costello any truth to that?

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Originally Posted by Captbony1999
Anyone find out info about Larry Dentico b. 1923 - I read he was made under Costello any truth to that?


Dentico was between the last inductions in 1950s. He is a Genovese made man so was made under Genovese.

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Any info on Bobby Manna

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Any guys alive made under Luciano.. any notable guys made under original bosses?

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This Luciano question. He went to jail in 36 and deported in 46. How many guys did he make? Did he appoint anyone from the time he went away? Plus he was on the lam for a while before he went to court.

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And guys made by original bosses anyone want to chip in?

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Originally Posted by Captbony1999
And guys made by original bosses anyone want to chip in?



Let's stick to ' earlier ' bosses.

If NYC closed the books circa 57' , there must of been a few guys made in their 20s/ 30s. So born just under a hundred years ago . There has to be a few still living ( not active I'd presume).

Manna is one.

I'd imagine guys made by Aiuppa/ Giancana/ Bruno still around

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And guys made by original bosses anyone want to chip in?



Let's stick to ' earlier ' bosses.

If NYC closed the books circa 57' , there must of been a few guys made in their 20s/ 30s. So born just under a hundred years ago . There has to be a few still living ( not active I'd presume).

Manna is one.

I'd imagine guys made by Aiuppa/ Giancana/ Bruno still around


Cool who inducted Manna? Yeah has to be some around made by Lucchese/Gambino/Genovese

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The only person who’s still alive that was made under an original commission boss would have to be Vincent Aloi; He was made by Joe Profaci in the 1950’s. He’s still alive …

@dsd

Chickie Ciangalini is still alive. He’s at least 90 years old; He was 1/2 of the last made by Angelo Bruno in the 1970’s. Frank Sindone also but he’s dead.

But I believe Vincent Aloi is the last made under a original NY commission boss.

There may be 1 or 2 guys (inactive) who were made under Joe Bonanno due to him being the only other original commission besides Profaci who was still the boss in the 1950’s.

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Under Lucchese/Gambino/Genovese anyone even if inactive?

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I have no idea…

Vincent Aloi is the last “made” under an original (1931) boss who’s still alive..

I may be wrong but he’s the most high profiled.


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Originally Posted by Captbony1999
Any guys alive made under Luciano.. any notable guys made under original bosses?


We went over this a few weeks ago in the other post. You're going to get the same answers since nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by Zavattoni
@Captbony1999 and dsd

The only person who’s still alive that was made under an original commission boss would have to be Vincent Aloi; He was made by Joe Profaci in the 1950’s. He’s still alive …

@dsd

Chickie Ciangalini is still alive. He’s at least 90 years old; He was 1/2 of the last made by Angelo Bruno in the 1970’s. Frank Sindone also but he’s dead.

But I believe Vincent Aloi is the last made under a original NY commission boss.

There may be 1 or 2 guys (inactive) who were made under Joe Bonanno due to him being the only other original commission besides Profaci who was still the boss in the 1950’s.


Chickie Ciancaglini died in March.

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