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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944222
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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/fabiola-santiago/article76775897.html

In this April 22, 2000, file photo, Elian Gonzalez is taken by U.S. law enforcement from the Little Havana home of uncle Lazaro Gonzalez.

Taking kids at gunpoint is what Democrats do.

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https://www.hannity.com/media-room/...agent-is-escorted-from-fbi-headquarters/

STRZOK OUT: The Anti-Trump Agent is 'ESCORTED' from FBI Offices lol

Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944224
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Elian Gonzalez was taken in to be REUNITED with his father.

The Trump suckers always miss these key details.

Still...

Not one of you denies that Trump is throwing children in cages for political leverage.

Of course, it's understandable. You can't deny it because it's true.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944227
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I've seen at least a dozen pictures of Elián González today. People do love their false equivalencies.

So many people are following that attempt to equate that unique situation (a kid being given back to his parent) with what's going on today with thousands of children being forcibly removed from their parents. The former being a matter of following an actual law, and the latter having to do with an idiotic policy created by a man who says he doesn't know anything about it. But anyway... from New York Times 2000:

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/01/us/democrats-criticize-gore-for-position-on-cuban-boy.html

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All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944232
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Douchebag literally hugged a U.S. flag after a speech today.

U.S. flag code:

"§176. Respect for flag

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free."


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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All of the above is done before nfl games

Nobody makes mention of it though

Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944236
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You would think at least the president would understand flag etiquette.

Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower...

All of these hard core righties somehow made it through their presidencies without dry humping the flag right in front of cameras following a speech.

It's just another chapter of this era we're living in.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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"The crying babies doesn't look good", Trump to GOP lawmakers.

Aside from his typically poor grammar, he knows when he's in trouble. Like a child.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: helenwheels] #944241
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Originally Posted by helenwheels
I've seen at least a dozen pictures of Elián González today. People do love their false equivalencies.

So many people are following that attempt to equate that unique situation (a kid being given back to his parent) with what's going on today with thousands of children being forcibly removed from their parents. The former being a matter of following an actual law, and the latter having to do with an idiotic policy created by a man who says he doesn't know anything about it. But anyway... from New York Times 2000:

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/01/us/democrats-criticize-gore-for-position-on-cuban-boy.html


It is not a false equivalencies. Elian's mother died so that her child can live free in America, instead the democrats returned Elian to a dictator with no respect for human rights. Democrats are hypocrites and the Elian case is a perfect example.

You can spin this all you want, the child was returned to a murderous regime. Parents have no rights over their children in a communist state. Elian's father has no choice but to follow what the state tells him to do or else families members will be tortured or jailed.

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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944242
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There are reasons why these kids are separated from their parents. It is to verify that the child actually belongs to a parent and isn't being trafficked.

These smugglers have people there pretending they are their parents. These hypocrite democrats make no mention of children and women being raped by these smugglers not to mention those immigrants that died in the hand of smugglers abandoning them in the middle of nowhere without water. All this is accepted by these democrats that have no compassion for life and yet they want to set an example that they are holier than God.

This is all leftist bullshit, many immigrants have been dying for decades and never make it to the border and the democrats to do nothing to resolve the problem.

Trump does not need lectures by incompetent Democrats.

Furthermore the majority of these children that show up at the border are unaccompanied. That means that their parents are the ones that chose to be separated from their children so spare me the bullshit and do you homework.

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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944243
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It is to create leverage to force congress into voting for the wall. This is why Trump continually blames Democrats for the detentions. If it really were in the best interest of the detained children, Trump wouldn't hesitate to take credit. He would never pass up the opportunity to look like a hero. He's blaming Democrats because he knows this is fucked up. He's hoping he can get the majority of the country to blame Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans, and put pressure on their representatives to vote for a wall, but so far just his usual target market of desperate right wing suckers are falling for it.


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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: OakAsFan] #944247
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
It is to create leverage to force congress into voting for the wall. This is why Trump continually blames Democrats for the detentions. If it really were in the best interest of the detained children, Trump wouldn't hesitate to take credit. He would never pass up the opportunity to look like a hero. He's blaming Democrats because he knows this is fucked up. He's hoping he can get the majority of the country to blame Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans, and put pressure on their representatives to vote for a wall, but so far just his usual target market of desperate right wing suckers are falling for it.


So basically you just made the case that Trump is trying to fix the immigration problem and the democrats want the status quo for political purpose.

Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944248
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90% of the children at the border are unaccompanied. 33% of unaccompanied children are recruited by gang members.

The other 10% are separated and the alleged parents are interviewed for the purpose of finding out if they are who they say they are.
It is done for the protection of the children. There are people working for the cartel pretending to be the parents of children that they intend to traffick and exploit.

Contrary to media reports & lies these children are being cared for and have play grounds for them as well.

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...llion-child-border-crossers-under-obama/

Obama’s Inaction on Immigration Loophole Separated More Than Quarter Million Child Border Crossers rolleyes confused shhh panic

Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944254
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Ciment has no credible sources for those numbers.


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Trump has no credible sources for his numbers, either, btw. He makes most of them up. He's usually fact checked almost immediately by the media.


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Send every one of them back. Mexico has sanctuary law that is the same as the United States . They walked through all of Mexico to get here our welfare benefits.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Trump has no credible sources for his numbers, either, btw. He makes most of them up. He's usually fact checked almost immediately by the media.



No, he is alway fact checked by the media, and they try every way they can to discredit him. Fake news. In fact, Fake News should be your new user name.

Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names [Re: Belmont] #944263
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Wow, Jace. That was good...

Fake News should be my user name.

Don Rickles over here.

Brutal...


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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Trump has no credible sources for his numbers, either, btw. He makes most of them up. He's usually fact checked almost immediately by the media.



No, he is alway fact checked by the media, and they try every way they can to discredit him. Fake news. In fact, Fake News should be your new user name.


He gets fact checked because he always lies

The potus is a degenerate crook with no moral compass

He lies to you and you praise him

The media doesn't like him because hes a fucking asshole and his supporters love him because hes an asshole. U can't have it both ways

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Ciment has no credible sources for those numbers.


My sources Kirstjen Nielson homeland security,Katie Pavlich, Laura Ingram and your favorite Rush Limbaugh.

Katie Pavlich has done extensive reporting on immigration but you wouldn't know because you listen to fake news all the time.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Wow, Jace. That was good...

Fake News should be my user name.

Don Rickles over here.

Brutal...


Yes, I found that very funny. I agree with Jace.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Trump has no credible sources for his numbers, either, btw. He makes most of them up. He's usually fact checked almost immediately by the media.



It is you that makes everything up and never have sources.

My mistake "cookcounty" is your source.

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Leftist Democrats sources are based on hatred and being sheep to the mainstream media.

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The Fastest Way to Get Rid of a Bad Law Is to Enforce It.

By Rush Limbaugh "Guru" of conservatism.

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I don't know why more people can't put their differences aside and be like Bryan Cranston.

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On President Trump’s first year in office: “It’s just astonishing to me. President Trump is not the person who I wanted to be in that office, and I’ve been very open about that. That being said, he is the president. If he fails, the country is in jeopardy. It would be egotistical for anyone to say, “I hope he fails.” To that person I would say, fuck you. Why would you want that? So you can be right? I don’t want him to fail. I want him to succeed. I do. I honestly do. … And if you’ve got a good idea that helps the country, oh man, I’m gonna support you. I don’t care if you’re a Republican and I’m a Democrat or whatever, I don’t care. A good idea’s a good idea. Let’s do that. We’ve got to get away from this idea that our country is political football, and someone with a different opinion is the enemy. Assume they love this country as much as you do, and there’s always room for improvement. How can we make it better?”


Oh, and Oak, you're conveniently ignoring that time CNN employees revealed that their bosses were giving them directives to push manufactured stories about Trump.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/06/19/13-facts-border-children-family-separation/?

13 Facts the Media ‘Pros’ Don’t Want You to Know About ‘Family Border Separation’ shhh whistle wink

1-Trump Is Only Enforcing the Law

2-Trump’s Only Choice Is to Separate Illegal Alien Families

3-The Left Wants Illegal Aliens to Enjoy Privileges Denied to American Citizens

4-Asylum Seekers Not Breaking the Law are Not Being Separated

5-Trump Is Correct About the Loophole

6-“Reuniting” Families Would Be a Disaster for Countless Children

7-Obama and Democrats Incentivized This ‘Family Separation’

8-Barack Obama Separated Illegal Alien Families, Media Said Nothing

9-IMPORTANT: The ONLY Way to Unite Families Is to Release Them into America

10-Incentivizing the Act of Bringing Minor Children Across the Border Is Evil

11-Those Who Come to America Legally Face ‘Family Separation’

12-“Family Reunification” Is an Invitation to Human Traffickers

13-Media Do Not Give a Shit About American Families Separated by Criminal Illegal Aliens

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Yeah, Cook, I think the fact check thing sort of went over Jace's head.

Fact check means when someone proves you lied. The media does this to Trump routinely, yet he doubles down on the lies.


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Originally Posted by Ciment
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Ciment has no credible sources for those numbers.


My sources Kirstjen Nielson homeland security,Katie Pavlich, Laura Ingram and your favorite Rush Limbaugh.

Katie Pavlich has done extensive reporting on immigration but you wouldn't know because you listen to fake news all the time.


Limbaugh and Ingram are not credible sources. They're commentators.

And, you did not get your info from any official government sources.


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Wow. Bryan Cranston. There's an accomplished thought leader. He played a meth dealer on a cable tv drama.


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