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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #943676
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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Wish I could've heard the conversation between Peter Gotti and John Jr. in that clip of that outside talking. Peter looked pissed off at Jr. and when Jr. is walking away he looks like his tail is between his legs.

Peter Gotti wasnt exactly the most respected Gotti Who knows what junior was thinking at that moment

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: Tonytough] #943737
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Originally Posted by Tonytough
Yeh Angel strikes me as someone who doesn’t try to twist the truth.


Angel seems like a likable girl but I don't believe for a second that the Favaro neighbor told Vicky Gotti ''wtf was he doing in the street to being with''

I think that was bs to make him seem like a less sympathetic victim !!

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: OakAsFan] #943738
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Bruce Cutler will be next to have his own reality show.


He looked terrible !!

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: JCrusher] #943739
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i dvr last night giving it a watch now. jrs spinning the shit out of it. they couldnt tie my father to drugs but his little brother and best friend was. i could give 2shits but to act like john gotti was holy then thou and never touched drugs get the fuck out. ya he was the capo thats why he didnt touch the drugs but he knew. last thing at least theres no shit acting scenes its all stock footage or photos which is good. ya its jr sucking his dad off on a.e. but its ok get paid.

One thing is clear Gotti definetly knew about the drug dealing and profited from it which makes him responsible as the capo. Also they failed to mention that the main reason Angelo and gene had to resort to drug dealing was because Gotti pissed away the crews profits gambling


There's no question Gotti knew they were dealing...In a normal interview, after junior said his father hated drugs and had nothing to do with it, the interviewer should have asked why Gotti didn't know anything about all the people around him dealing, and why he never did anything against them after he found out !!

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: JCrusher] #943741
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
witnesses say he begged too and called out to his Family. For years i thought willie boy angelo ruggiero and tony rampino abducted favara but somebody posted evidence that may be traced to rhode island did it as a favor to gotti



If I remember right it was Capeci who wrote that he was yelling, "Please no! I have a wife and kids" or words to that effect.

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: DiLorenzo] #943742
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
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i dvr last night giving it a watch now. jrs spinning the shit out of it. they couldnt tie my father to drugs but his little brother and best friend was. i could give 2shits but to act like john gotti was holy then thou and never touched drugs get the fuck out. ya he was the capo thats why he didnt touch the drugs but he knew. last thing at least theres no shit acting scenes its all stock footage or photos which is good. ya its jr sucking his dad off on a.e. but its ok get paid.

One thing is clear Gotti definetly knew about the drug dealing and profited from it which makes him responsible as the capo. Also they failed to mention that the main reason Angelo and gene had to resort to drug dealing was because Gotti pissed away the crews profits gambling


There's no question Gotti knew they were dealing...In a normal interview, after junior said his father hated drugs and had nothing to do with it, the interviewer should have asked why Gotti didn't know anything about all the people around him dealing, and why he never did anything against them after he found out !!

Very Good Point. Obviously the Gottis will always try to make their father look somewhat "noble" even though he wasn't at all. As for the drug dealing he obviously knew. Sal Ruggiero(Angelo's brother) was a well known drug dealer making a ton of money, plus Gotti top 2 soldiers in Angelo and gene were heavily involved. In fact like ive mentioned in the past a big reason why they really got into the drug business was because Gotti was a degenerate gamnler who pissed away a lot of their profits. Im not saying that was the main reason but both angelo and Gene mentioned it in wiretaps

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943745
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"without rats without pleas, these jails would be empty" lol got a point. the second part is much better. yes its 1 sided jr spin on the history but its pretty good. i'll give my final review in a few. i just want to see the whole video between sr and jr. john sr was a fucking pshyco path dad gangster super mobster. hes nuts. all that he looks so cutt up he looks like every other guy at 60 with cancer i see this kid i know 25 looks like gotti in the video now thats sad.

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943746
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jr you went there to tell your dad your pleading guilty he just tried to switch it and say i told jerry shargel where going to trial stop it. also looks like a short chubby henry rollins

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943750
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steve crea must be pissed his lawyer who he must have gave atleast 200k as a retainer is on this jr gotti doc. flipside i read crea and his kid will get off on the meldish murder and they all might.

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943754
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not bad a b-. gotti jr sounds like a liar alot and baby but it was produce good. it really blows my mind how vindicitve the gov was to keep going after the guy with all those rico trials and gooing to florida that shit is nuts millions of dollars for a washed up gangsters son. they knew atleast by 2005 he was done or the gambino family said ya on the self gottis

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943755
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and to see how fucking crazy rudy giuliani is today in 2018 with his mistresses and what a tight ass he was back in the 1980s crazy

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943756
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john alite maybe one of the worst witnesses ever. final

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943757
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this is cold but....... angel gotti looks like mason verger from the hannibal movie netflix lol. moe put as pic of it up sside by side

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943759
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last last the fucking catholic church to deny any body a catholic mass after all the fucking kids they raped. shame shame shame GOT reference

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: pmac] #943761
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Originally Posted by pmac
john alite maybe one of the worst witnesses ever. final


I spoke to him once. He is full of shit and couldn't speak about anything but Gotti Jr being a rat , showing me newspaper clips etc

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943815
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Plain fact is..If John Sr. was still alive and on the Street, Jr. would be right by his side. Jr. had seen the writing on the wall after his Father's passing. He wouldn't of lasted too long and i'm not talking about jail time.. He was only accepted into the Mob because of his Father's position..It was a wise choice.

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: jace] #943875
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Jace

No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.

Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.

I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.

Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals.


Of all the people on all the forums on the internet, you are the last one who should be saying anyone has an agenda.


What agenda? That the mafia shouldn't be allowed kill innocent, law-abiding people willy-nilly?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943877
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Gotti Sr. absolutely knew about the drugs. How his kids can believe that he had no involvement is beyond me. They lose credibility on that issue.

Jr.'s comments on the DeCicco hit and his theory do not line up with what we know now. When Casso flipped to the Feds, Casso acknowledged ordering the hit, in concert with Chin Gigante, as retribution for Big Paul and for the failed hit on Casso. Casso and Chin knew Frankie was part of the Fist that took out Big Paul, and he was going to pay for it. They chose a bomb to make Gotti and the Gambino's think it was the Sicilian zips that did it since bombs were their signature. I think Al D'Arco confirmed these facts.

All the evidence points to Favarra being sorry and respectful. He was trying to leave the area because he knew his life was in danger. The Feds warned him and he didn't leave in time. In an earlier interview, Jr said about Favara, "my Dad probably had some involvement in it. If you hurt him, he was going to hurt you back". Favara knew who Gotti was, and was not going to poke that tiger in the eye.

The funny thing about Sr telling his grandkids to stay away from baseball because of the steroids is....that Jr was a steroid junkie.

One thing I believe about Jr was leaving the life. The government pursued him for his past crimes with weak evidence. Alite was a joke. His last name most def drove the government to go at him for as long as they did. Jr. was lucky to serve with what he got. He acknowledged that on the show, and that "the life" is shit.

Lastly, Jr is smarter than his old man. He took a plea, and walked away.


Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: TonyG] #943888
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Gotti Sr. absolutely knew about the drugs. How his kids can believe that he had no involvement is beyond me. They lose credibility on that issue.

Jr.'s comments on the DeCicco hit and his theory do not line up with what we know now. When Casso flipped to the Feds, Casso acknowledged ordering the hit, in concert with Chin Gigante, as retribution for Big Paul and for the failed hit on Casso. Casso and Chin knew Frankie was part of the Fist that took out Big Paul, and he was going to pay for it. They chose a bomb to make Gotti and the Gambino's think it was the Sicilian zips that did it since bombs were their signature. I think Al D'Arco confirmed these facts.

All the evidence points to Favarra being sorry and respectful. He was trying to leave the area because he knew his life was in danger. The Feds warned him and he didn't leave in time. In an earlier interview, Jr said about Favara, "my Dad probably had some involvement in it. If you hurt him, he was going to hurt you back". Favara knew who Gotti was, and was not going to poke that tiger in the eye.

The funny thing about Sr telling his grandkids to stay away from baseball because of the steroids is....that Jr was a steroid junkie.

One thing I believe about Jr was leaving the life. The government pursued him for his past crimes with weak evidence. Alite was a joke. His last name most def drove the government to go at him for as long as they did. Jr. was lucky to serve with what he got. He acknowledged that on the show, and that "the life" is shit.

Lastly, Jr is smarter than his old man. He took a plea, and walked away.

This

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Plea deals are for suckers..... just ask Gene Gotti.


"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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gotti has a 0 on rotten tomatoes

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That movie has to suck-you see how on the documentary junior says his father woke him up in the AM asking about the bar fight/stabbing in his robe telling Vicki his wife to shut her mouth but in the movie preview I saw they play the scene out at night and it Angelo Ruggiero that Gotti tells the keep it shut.....can't show the guy yelling at his wife. The movie poster says he's a god.....guy had balls I'll give u that but there's empty soda cans that stayed on the street longer than he did. Ps-I liked the HBO version...Assante killed it.


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Do they show how he was a deadbeat husband who couldn't provide for his family for large portions of his life? You know how his wife repeatedly complained to the relevant authorities that he wasn't supporting the family adequately? How he hustled his wife and newborn out of the hospital and skipped the bill?



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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #943921
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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Originally Posted by Tonytough
Damn it- don’t have A&E channel over

Hit me a link if anyone comes across one- thanks

Ps

Just watched that clip ‘where’s your dignity, where’s your manhood’. Jr is definitely not of the old school like his father, uncles


Credit goes to Richard_Belding over at the blackhand forum for finding this link. All credit goes to him. I'm just passing it along.

https://www1.1movies.se/series/gotti-godfather-and-son-season-1/113297/135194-watch-online-free.html

Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Originally Posted by Tonytough
Damn it- don’t have A&E channel over

Hit me a link if anyone comes across one- thanks

Ps

Just watched that clip ‘where’s your dignity, where’s your manhood’. Jr is definitely not of the old school like his father, uncles


Credit goes to Richard_Belding over at the blackhand forum for finding this link. All credit goes to him. I'm just passing it along.

https://www1.1movies.se/series/gotti-godfather-and-son-season-1/113297/135194-watch-online-free.html




Thank u very MUCH for the link!! It works

Took a few tries and initially I was about to give up. Thanks I appreciate it, was wanting to watch for a while

And wow, Angel looks very different. Abit like Mickey rourke. Surgery gone wrong? She was attractive in the last Gotti doc. I know Vicky has had work done on her face

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: Mukremin] #943946
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just noticed my name is on the credits smile


that really is pretty cool tho. good work


yeah love it smile thanks man


Muk you could probably make somewhat of a living or money on the side by helping out documentaries etc

nice tho. Lucky bastard lol

Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943947
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Is that show over or is it several parts ?


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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT [Re: bronx] #943948
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It's over, it was a two night thing. I think it was 4 parts total, they had two episodes back to back each night.

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I have to say I enjoyed it. I knew going in that it was going to be all from the Gotti's perspective and would make Senior look better than he really was, so I appreciated it when they were quite candid about a lot of things. While there were some parts I know were wrong or lies, overall there was still plenty of interesting information, stories, photos and clips to make up for it. The highlight was the footage of Junior telling Senior he wanted to take a plea.

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Thanks


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Jace

No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.

Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.

I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.

Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals.


Of all the people on all the forums on the internet, you are the last one who should be saying anyone has an agenda.


What agenda? That the mafia shouldn't be allowed kill innocent, law-abiding people willy-nilly?


What agenda?? Well, you attack anything said on the story that shows Gotti in anything resembling. positive light, as you do on every topic about t the mob. You want Joey Merlino in prison because his smile angers you for some reason (Maybe you're toothless.) Every time an alleged mob figure's death is announced, you make stupid and tasteless remarks about them.

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