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Re: Frank Salemme.. [Re: irishkaos] #941941
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And I was gonna take the points w/Lebron...... damn Peking Raviolis


"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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And I was gonna take the points w/Lebron...... damn Peking Raviolis

lol man i didn't know that peking raviolis were called anything different until i was damn near 20 years old thats real boston shit

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Originally Posted by Biggie
iagree with n.e. , this can’t rat on the rat shit is nonsense..first of all, Connolly was a fed, yes, bi he was in the bulger crew, so Johnny m bullsshithe onl hurt them is just that, bullshit, Connolly helped him stay on lam for 15 years, new all along where he was, and Johnny knew it, he thought he was dirty, he was, so u rat on him? Let alone he ratted on his own dirty state cop, ..let alone he wen on lam for a fuckin nonsense horse racing case in frirst plce. All bullshit...artichoke, Darin being SG kids has been in dispute for a long time, I always though it to be true...others, including hisself, has refuted it to me.. who know....Darin is pretty sharp..when he’s on the ball..BUT that’s not always...one thing for sure, he’s serious as u can get. Whether clean or not


Yep, that whole you can't rat on a rat stuff is a bunch if crap. It's something they made to justify their actions. They also like to claim they only gave up info on a particular person or persons, but once they make a deal with the Government they have to tell them everything they've ever done and with who.

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Yup gerry, johnny m plea deal had him not testifying against x,y and z people, But it doesn’t mean he didn’t say x drove the car in such and such a hit etc..and the thing with him giving up his dirty cop really bothers me, how is he justified in that with people? Disgrace whoever talks to him

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Originally Posted by Biggie
Yup gerry, johnny m plea deal had him not testifying against x,y and z people, But it doesn’t mean he didn’t say x drove the car in such and such a hit etc..and the thing with him giving up his dirty cop really bothers me, how is he justified in that with people? Disgrace whoever talks to him


The POS killed a car full of innocent teenagers, he shouldn't have gotten that deal.

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Originally Posted by GerryLang
Originally Posted by Biggie
Yup gerry, johnny m plea deal had him not testifying against x,y and z people, But it doesn’t mean he didn’t say x drove the car in such and such a hit etc..and the thing with him giving up his dirty cop really bothers me, how is he justified in that with people? Disgrace whoever talks to him


The POS killed a car full of innocent teenagers, he shouldn't have gotten that deal.


It really is unbelievable that a guy who nonchalantly murdered over 20 people (conservative estimate) has been walking the streets for years. That goes to show you how desperate they were to nail Connolly, Bulger and Flemmi. Quite a price to pay.

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What is hard to understand is how do you kill someone for thinking they may tell on you. I do not know who did this but here are a bunch of scumbags that are charged or involved in a murder of a man that never told on them. Anyone in life that has or ordered a murder of someone who did nothing wrong deserves nothing but a rotten life for their whole life. This is why the life turned out the way it did. The real old timers must be turning over in their graves. What a disgrace the last 35 years have been. You lose your life for being a man yet the people that take it are RATS.

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Re: Frank Salemme.. [Re: irishkaos] #942484
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They were lovers Ill say it every body knew that in there circle. Now what?

Re: Frank Salemme.. [Re: irishkaos] #942485
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The testimony was great today, the guy that sold the Channel to DiSarro and Flemmi Jr had amnesia on the stand. Couldn't remember anything. How he met them, if the club had been for sale, how much he got for it, what was said, etc... and when they asked him to read his grand jury testimony from a few months back he said he couldn't see anything without his glasses and refused to even look at the transcript.

He owns a pizza place on the south shore now and they asked him if anyone had "gotten to him" or had "spoken" with him and he said NO. Then they asked him about a car fire outside his pizza place a few weeks ago and he basically denied it but I guess the FBI was worried enough that they did a welfare check after the car fire and he was like "I have no idea about anything"

They also had DiSarro's stepbrother on the stand as he owned the Channel with him and he said it was just a mess the ABC was looking at them, Salemme Jr was a mess starting fights and stealing money and when DiSarro disappeared he wasn't sure it was foul play, though maybe he ran or went to rehab as he had a serious drinking problem. He was even 100% convinced when a few years went buy where his step-brother had gone.

DiSarro was no angel, old man Patriarca was his godfather (that's be an interesting story how that happened) and he once dated Nicky Bianco's niece so he knew the game and the deal, RIP

Oh, and all of this happened with Frank in court today, the judge said he wouldn't be attending the proceedings.

They also said Salemme Jr robbed a drug dealer and pushed him out of a moving car, real nice guy

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Re: Frank Salemme.. [Re: irishkaos] #942503
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N.E..arrichoke..heard those rumors, before and.after.junior died..do i believe them? Then i can say i didnt, now, who the fuck.knowa, like in anyrhing i like first hand knowledge, and i certainly.dont have that haha..anyway, ya there was talk, especially after frank junior die

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Colin Sullivan: "What Freud said about the Irish is: We're the only people who are impervious to psychoanalysis."

Cincotti said: "They don't have the scruples that we have." Zannino agreed. "You know how I knew they weren't Italiano? When they bombed the fucking house. We don't do that."
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the govs ace up the sleeve is a guy who slept with his step daughter then killed her bad look

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One of the big questions I have is why would the boss of the New England Mafia take possession of a murder victim's body and transport it over state lines for disposal?

http://wbsm.com/opinion-chris-mccarthy-why-would-a-mafia-boss-move-a-body/

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why would a mafia boss kill someone in his wifes and son home. some demonic shit. sleep well mom.

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sharon ma is a quick ride to providence to.

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pmac - Absolutely a quick shot down 95, but its a long ride with a dead body on board. I think the defense is going to dispute the location of the murder. I just wonder why he would take that risk given the amount of federal agents stalking him at the time. Howie Carr always points out how stupid he thinks Salemme was as a criminal.

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so flemmi took the stand today couple things i read on twiiter. larry baione was dress as a mechanic with frank when they put the bomb under the lawyers car. in 68. flemmi was a crash car. guess some other guy timmons was killed by frank and larry in his sharon home in the 60tys. baby shacks was helping them hide out around nyc in the 70tys. some one teeted the jury was bored and yawning listening to flemmi talk about so much murder. wait to the defense crosses him about killing his step daughter and the sex gross. the guy paul wedicks gonna walk. lotta reporters wrote frank jr died from lymphoma cancer i no a kid today early 20tys dying from that shit. or fighting it i should say nasty disease. i could see why people think you have a aids. you shrink away and the chemo turns you chaulk white.

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it's crazy how big of a disaster this guy was as boss.

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Originally Posted by Sal_Bronte
it's crazy how big of a disaster this guy was as boss.


He was bloodthirsty. The bodies will never pile up like that again in the New England mob. Those days are over.

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oh and flemmi says he met salemme in 1964 puts to bed they were childhood friends. they were both about 30. flemmi probaly just came home from the korean war. he said he did 2 tours in 3 yrs. they were both loansharks for wimpy burnett who was a fbi informant who the mob had killed using larry bainone flemmi an salemme. then they killed his other 2 brothers for wanting revenge

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Originally Posted by pmac
so flemmi took the stand today couple things i read on twiiter. larry baione was dress as a mechanic with frank when they put the bomb under the lawyers car. in 68. flemmi was a crash car. guess some other guy timmons was killed by frank and larry in his sharon home in the 60tys. baby shacks was helping them hide out around nyc in the 70tys. some one teeted the jury was bored and yawning listening to flemmi talk about so much murder. wait to the defense crosses him about killing his step daughter and the sex gross. the guy paul wedicks gonna walk. lotta reporters wrote frank jr died from lymphoma cancer i no a kid today early 20tys dying from that shit. or fighting it i should say nasty disease. i could see why people think you have a aids. you shrink away and the chemo turns you chaulk white.

that's interesting about larry baione cause i remember reading in i think brothers bulger that larry was talking shit about the bombing saying that's not how they do things

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I think and Im just sayin. I believe this was a night at Franks that went coo coo. It is obvious they werent prepared for this drama. I think jr went nuts and sr had to cover up for kid the best he could.

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make a good point artichoke. the whole case will be if the jury believes flemmi. your putting away 2 men for life on that alone. if flemmi couldnt recongnize salemme in court today how the hells he gonna id weddick. was the son a made guy? probaly was inducted in 92 when salemme took the reighns.

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salemme was boss all 92 93 94 and went on the run june 95. 3 and a half yr run as boss. he must have made a good chunk of doe.

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it's crazy how big of a disaster this guy was as boss.


He was bloodthirsty. The bodies will never pile up like that again in the New England mob. Those days are over.


he was for sure blood thirsty but I think more than that the guy had no business being anywhere close to that spot. like it was mentioned earlier, he was the boss and he's personally overseeing murders at his family home and driving the body across state lines. I don't know a ton about the Boston mob and have always wondered why it wasn't Baby Shacks that got big seat over a guy like salemme?


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Originally Posted by pmac
make a good point artichoke. the whole case will be if the jury believes flemmi. your putting away 2 men for life on that alone. if flemmi couldnt recongnize salemme in court today how the hells he gonna id weddick. was the son a made guy? probaly was inducted in 92 when salemme took the reighns.


Ive been curious about if he was made or not too.

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lotta interesting stuff today. flemmi day2. he says howie winter was the boss of the winter hill gang till he went to jail 1980 but they all had a vote. when howie went to jail he didnt want whitey and flemmi tin sommerville so they rented that garage on lancaster street were weve seen all the pictures of whitey and abunch of mafia dudes. the whole time whitey and stevie were feeding the fbi info on them but were also doing hits for the mob and other rackets. the defense just started digging into flemmi when they called it a day. flemmi says he felt bad for bucky barret who was just a bank robber but whitey had some grudge against him. after flemmi and peeps stole the money from buckys house they expected whitey to just let him go whitey took his head off maybe its cause he was surpoed to be protected by salemme. then they got into a lil of his "indescretions" wit his step daughter gross. oh won of the defense lawyers asked who the informants are he said he couldnt say in front of the court there still around. crazy he knew who other fbi informants were. hes said before he thought shacks was. but hes mention him alot during this trial and calls him a mafia boss

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only interesting thing today which is huge other then flemmi just admitting hes a shitbag pedofile murderer. hes still got hope. the feds cant still file a 35rule motion for a reduced sentence for him and if florida agrees which if the feds say so they do, he can get out of prison. so if he puts salemme away and this guy wedick who has bodies on his record (he did a stretch for manslaughter , so hes another walpole killer cellmate of frank sr) thats why he was around the son alot. the gay shit is rumors. flemmi wants to be free. shit they let massino out but he didnt kill 2 innocent girls .one which was a step daughter. they even let the colombo guys who killed the cop free in nyc big dino calabro. so he has a chance

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Originally Posted by pmac
oh and flemmi says he met salemme in 1964 puts to bed they were childhood friends. they were both about 30. flemmi probaly just came home from the korean war. he said he did 2 tours in 3 yrs. they were both loansharks for wimpy burnett who was a fbi informant who the mob had killed using larry bainone flemmi an salemme. then they killed his other 2 brothers for wanting revenge



"They don't have the scruples that we have." Zannino agreed. "You know how I knew they weren't Italiano? When they bombed the fucking house. We don't do that."


Colin Sullivan: "What Freud said about the Irish is: We're the only people who are impervious to psychoanalysis."

Cincotti said: "They don't have the scruples that we have." Zannino agreed. "You know how I knew they weren't Italiano? When they bombed the fucking house. We don't do that."
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