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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: redditor] #935390
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Originally Posted by redditor

Oh btw. you can't just kill people in Canada and get away with it. People go to prison for that. They just need to be caught first.



But even when caught they have to serve very little time in most cases. In July last year, Raymond Bouchard a member of the West End Gang, was released on parole after serving two-thirds of his sentence. He was arrested in March 2009 and charged with 16 murders and 6 attempts.

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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935447
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Sorry I am not fully understanding

So Vito was boss
One of his capos and his crew went to war with him.

Why would his own capo family want to avenge Violo's murder?

What is left of that renegade faction?

Was there an official end to the war?
A truce? Compromise?

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935505
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Well you had ex-Bonanno boss Sal Montagna and a faction behind him and Raynald Desjardins who used to be a Rizzuto man (spent 15 years or so on drug charges) and was supposedly mad at Vito because he got out and come home to nothing. Sal just seen an opportunity and tried to pounce on it before he tried and failed to kill Desjardins. So Desjardins kills Sal and is basically the power at that point with the backing of most to all of the Calabrian faction (including family from old Violi/Cotroni faction that the Rizzuto's run out) so Vito gets out, kills Joe Di Maulo right away (considered the top Calabrian in the Rizzuto family) who just happens to be Desjardins brother in law.

Vito dies supposedly of lung cancer, so Stefano Sollecito becomes boss along with Leonardo Rizzuto with the backing of Rocco Sollecito before he himself is shot and killed. Stefano and Leonardo are caught on illegal wiretaps talking drugs and eventually getting caught in a conspiracy to kill Raynald Desjardins in prison with Mom Boucher the old leader of the Hells Angels. This week or last, Frank Arcadi who was street boss for Vito when he went away has now gotten out of prison and I think restrictions so he's free now as well and another Rizzuto loyalist or at least he was before he went away. His right hand Frank Del Balso is out again too I think after someone invaded his home with his family there more than likely in hopes of catching him there to kill him.

That's the dumbed down version and not even 25% of what is going on but it gives you a little taste and the cliff notes. Now since Canada has weak laws on about everything thinkable, Desjardins will be spending another 5 1/3 years in prison (roughly) for the Montagna hit, Sollecito/Rizzuto are both out due to illegal wiretaps, and Arcadi is out as well so the Rizzuto faction is the strongest it has been in a few years and now the Desjardins faction seems to be the ones on the run now. Rizzuto is facing gun charges but I doubt a whole lot comes of that after he pleas more than likely. We still not sure if the Desjardins faction has backing in Toronto or from the 'Drangheta (sp?). Still lots to figure out and lots to learn

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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935509
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so with leonardo rizzuto, domenico manno, stefano sollecito, francesco del balso and frank arcadi in freedom the rizzuto's are still strong in montreal, the strongest
also the murder of the brother of desjardin means they are still powerful

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935511
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Yes, it's probably 99.9% true that Raynald's brother is DEAD. Domenico Manno hasn't done much since the 70's, he spent a long time away and is basically "retired".

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935586
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Why would a faction of the Rizzuto's want to avenge the Violi bros?
They were Buffalo LCN weren't they?

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935587
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So how many crews do the Rizzuto's have left?
And what has become of the renegade faction?
Was a truce called?

So Rizzuto's son is Capo di tutti Capi?
Or is he on borrowers time?

One thing about Canada right now Anyone can easily be touched.
"LIGHTS OUT"

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: BensonHURST] #935612
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Why would a faction of the Rizzuto's want to avenge the Violi bros?
They were Buffalo LCN weren't they?


Paolo Violi was a capodecina of the Bonannos. 2018 is the 40th anniversary year of their murders, so we can expect some fireworks this summer.

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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935674
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Ok I don't know anything about Canada

So then their hits were sanctioned by the Bonanno family?

The Rizzutto's started out as a crew of the Bonanno family.

So the Rizzutos bumped off the capo of the Bonnano's Canadian Crew and took over,
They then got so big and powerful that they separated and formed their own family.

So Sal the Iron worker technically had a legit claim up in Canada
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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935680
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Canada is insane. How close to accurate is the show Bad Blood? Watched that and found it entertaining at least. I assume that "Tig" from Sons of Anarchy is supposed to be based on Desjardins?

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935683
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Bad blood is about the Rizzuto's and the war?

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Paolo Violi was acting capo for Vic Cotroni


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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: BensonHURST] #935751
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
So then their hits were sanctioned by the Bonanno family?


Seriously doubt it.

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The Rizzutto's started out as a crew of the Bonanno family.


Yes

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So the Rizzutos bumped off the capo of the Bonnano's Canadian Crew and took over,
They then got so big and powerful that they separated and formed their own family.


Pretty much.

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So Sal the Iron worker technically had a legit claim up in Canada
??????????


Nope. He just happened to get deported around the time Vito was in prison and thought it was a great opportunity to take them over because he was ex-boss and thought it meant something up there. It ended with him jumping out of a window and trying to swim across a frozen river.

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #935798
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The reason why I say it was sanctioned
Vito and a couple of his guys were in on the 3 captains hit.

After that they took out the Violo's

I think that was why Rizzuto helped Massino take over the family.
In turn Massino gave his blessing for them to take over in Canada

They formed an alliance that lasted until Gerlando Sciscia was whacked.

Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: BensonHURST] #935813
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
The reason why I say it was sanctioned
Vito and a couple of his guys were in on the 3 captains hit.

After that they took out the Violo's

I think that was why Rizzuto helped Massino take over the family.
In turn Massino gave his blessing for them to take over in Canada

They formed an alliance that lasted until Gerlando Sciscia was whacked.



I do believe the triple murder in NY ('81), Paolo Violi in '78 and the Galante hit in '79 played a role later on.

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Re: Rizzuto's in their day [Re: mike89] #936005
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Yes they were all Carried out by or sanctioned by the Bonnano leadership of that time Rastelli as the actual boss, and Massino as the real power in the background pulling the strings.
When the time was right he was going tonstepnin and take the top spot.

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