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Re: president trump [Re: Footreads] #933555
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Originally Posted by Footreads
So evidently no one here can actually do common core math.

I sure there are brilliant mathemations on here who might be able to look it up on the internet and do one already done.

But no one can do that math if they were given a simple math question for the first time by their own kid

I agree that Common Core is ridiculous. However, that doesn't mean DeVos is the right person for the job. She secured her position through the exact same "swamp" practices that Trump decried through his campaign and is so unfit for the position she holds it's not even funny. Did you see her on 60 Minutes? This is a woman who has no degrees in an education-related field, no experience working in schools at all, and has never attended a public school or sent her children to one, and supports for-profit education. This is not a woman who cares about the average kid in Anytown, USA. Can you really tell me with a straight face that this woman was the best possible candidate for the job?

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So, the case against Common Core is based just in traditionalism? Anyone have an objection to it based in its merit where the 21st century global business world is concerned?


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I remember the paranoia over the metric system. It never happened here in the states. Did we stand tall and win the cultural war, or did we just outsource all of the jobs anyway, so now it's a moot point? I think one could walk around and observe the answer.


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In the scientific world, even here the usa, si is the standard of measurement.

Re: president trump [Re: Binnie_Coll] #933561
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By making people look up the word dotard, Kim Jong Un has done more for American education than Betsy DeVos.

I joke, but it couldn't be a more serious issue. Her humiliating performance on 60 Minutes got attention, but it's about her policy agenda and complete lack of qualifications that we need to be concerned with. The damage she is doing will be with us for a long time.


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I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: president trump [Re: Binnie_Coll] #933562
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Common Core just has strawman argument written all over it. It's the gender neutral restroom of standard initiatives.


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Cant help to notice Kim Jong sporting the fedora hats since the talk of meeting Trump. They don't have access to American movies produced after 1940, evidently. They're excited. Got the RCA record player and Glen Miller 45s ready to go for the big sit down with Don Dotard.


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Common core. When it comes to education, there should be no such thing as common. Some will excel and others will barely get by. No reason to subject those who excel to limit their ability to demonstrate their potential. I assume that's why there is a rise in charter schools.

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Excel at what?


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Some charter schools follow common core, as do many private and parochial schools. It depends on both the individual state/schoolboard/B of E, and school.


All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



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Learning! Point proven.

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So, people against Common Core fear that students could excel in things other than merely "learning"?


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Trump got elected president and is allowed to appoints and fire who he wants. Democrats should get over the fact that they lost the election. The resistance will soon come to an end when people from the FBI and DOJ will be handcuffed and sent to prison. Obama appointed the most incompetent administration; many in his administration should of been fired for their fuck ups.
Trump is a man of action, he hardly sleeps, his staff can't keep up to him. That is why he needs new blood.
Change is good and new ideas will be implemented.

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Common core is a big joke just like Obamacare/ unaffordable care and anything else liberal socialist try to implement.

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Trump supporters would make excuses for trump if he raped a woman in their immediate family

He has the most dysfunctional white house in american history, thats not a sign of good leadership

The country obviously isnt running smoothly

Re: president trump [Re: helenwheels] #933577
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Originally Posted by helenwheels
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http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news...-debt-14-mont/?__twitter_impression=true[/quote

And the John Bolton rumors are concerning. "I promise to recycle all the failed Bushy warmongering neocon lunatics" isnt good policy.


Why Bolton despises Russia it is because of Russia Hillary lost the election remember?


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[quote=cookcounty]Trump supporters would make excuses for trump if he raped a woman in their immediate family”

But he didn’t I heard obama regularly fucked his children though if the rumor is true.


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Well, it looks like John Kelly is staying... thats a good thing. McMaster wants to stay as well.

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Democrats criticize Trump's appointees and these are the same people that voted for crooked Hillary that has a hard time standing on her own two feet.

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Originally Posted by Ciment

Democrats criticize Trump's appointees and these are the same people that voted for crooked Hillary that has a hard time standing on her own two feet.

What does that have to do with political appointees? And what if you didn't vote for Hillary, then are you allowed to critique Trump's choices?

Like I always say, not trying to be rude, but I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". Which has nothing to do with solutions, especially if you're like myself and not a Democrat.

I criticize Trump's appointees, but I'm not a Democrat and did not vote for Hillary. I've stated why I don't think DeVos was worthy of appointment. What's your retort?Again, not trying to be an asshole, but I'm genuinely interested to know how you feel without resorting to whatboutism.

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Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by Ciment

Democrats criticize Trump's appointees and these are the same people that voted for crooked Hillary that has a hard time standing on her own two feet.

What does that have to do with political appointees? And what if you didn't vote for Hillary, then are you allowed to critique Trump's choices?

Like I always say, not trying to be rude, but I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". Which has nothing to do with solutions, especially if you're like myself and not a Democrat.

I criticize Trump's appointees, but I'm not a Democrat and did not vote for Hillary. I've stated why I don't think DeVos was worthy of appointment. What's your retort?Again, not trying to be an asshole, but I'm genuinely interested to know how you feel without resorting to whatboutism.


Who cares who you voted for, I have a right to defend Trump's appointees just as you have a right to criticize. Even if you were a republican, and there are swamp republicans that hate Trump, you would of been met with the same fate. What am I supposed to do keep track of who you voted for. Furthermore, you weren't the only one that criticized Trump's appointees. Did I mention you by name? The answer is no ! If you did not vote for Hillary then you shouldn't be bothered by what I said about her. Devos was not the only Trump appointee/future appointee that was criticized here, you can go back and check; and where in my statement did I mention Devos ? So did I give you facts or did I resort to whatboutism ? It looks like you jumped the gun.

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I mentioned DeVos specifically because that's an appointee that I criticized, so I figured I would explain why to show you in good faith that I'm not just doing so blindly. And why would you have to mention me by name for me to question your thought process?

You don't seem interested in answering my questions though, so I'll leave it there.

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Wait, Common Core is socialist, now?


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Originally Posted by RollinBones
I mentioned DeVos specifically because that's an appointee that I criticized, so I figured I would explain why to show you in good faith that I'm not just doing so blindly. And why would you have to mention me by name for me to question your thought process?

You don't seem interested in answering my questions though, so I'll leave it there.


I was polite and tried to answer your questions the best I know how. Apparently you seem pissed off for something I do not know. But who cares.

You didn't even attempt to answer my questions, I at least tried. Now you are doing whatboutism, what the fuck that means.

I am willing to end it there but if you want to carry this conversation further let's go.


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Originally Posted by RollinBones
I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". .


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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]...

...Critics say that US President Donald Trump has engaged in whataboutism in response to criticism leveled at him, his policies, or his support of controversial world leaders.[4][88][89] National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "President Trump has developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized: say that someone else is worse."[4] NPR noted Trump chose to criticize the Affordable Care Act when he himself faced criticism over the proposed American Health Care Act of 2017, "Instead of giving a reasoned defense, he went for blunt offense, which is a hallmark of whataboutism."[4] NPR noted similarities in use of the tactic by Putin and Trump, "it's no less striking that while Putin's Russia is causing the Trump administration so much trouble, Trump nevertheless often sounds an awful lot like Putin".[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


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Sorry, RB, I didn't read far enough into your comment to realize you'd already identified the "whataboutism". Oh well. For posterity.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by RollinBones
I can't help but notice just about every single time someone criticizes Trump they are met with "But Democrat so-and-so did XYZ so they are worse!". .


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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]...

...Critics say that US President Donald Trump has engaged in whataboutism in response to criticism leveled at him, his policies, or his support of controversial world leaders.[4][88][89] National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "President Trump has developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized: say that someone else is worse."[4] NPR noted Trump chose to criticize the Affordable Care Act when he himself faced criticism over the proposed American Health Care Act of 2017, "Instead of giving a reasoned defense, he went for blunt offense, which is a hallmark of whataboutism."[4] NPR noted similarities in use of the tactic by Putin and Trump, "it's no less striking that while Putin's Russia is causing the Trump administration so much trouble, Trump nevertheless often sounds an awful lot like Putin".[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


I guess you did not know yourself you had to look that up.

In my neighborhood you would get punched out for saying words like that. I guess we all can't be intellectuals like you.

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You think BB markup is intellectual?


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No, I think SFLY is intellectual !

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@footreads

U just admitted that you'd defend trump no matter what he does

Im willing to bet that its ONLY cuz hes racist

Obamas oldest daughter has a phat ass



@ciment

How can u call hillary crooked when everybody that worked on trumps campaign are getting jammed up by the feds

Trump is crooked, insecure and demented

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