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Re: Ndrangheta News [Re: Ciment] #932771
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Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc


'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks


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Rocco Morabito: Cocaine kingpin to be extradited to Italy

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You obviously have a fetish for the Sicilians.


it's just the truth, sicilian mafia in the 1980s did massacres that nobody would do nowadays in europe, i mean judges, policemen, journalists killed, strong links with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician of all time, with masocnic lodges and secret services
not only drug trafficking (sicilians produced heroin) and other stuff



Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock.

Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then.

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Murdered mafia lawyer gunned down for being a 'police informant'

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Rocco Papalia, considered the 'godfather' of Buccinasco (Milan) and one of the most important leaders of the Calabrian mafia in the north, released last May after 26 years of detention, was stopped by the Carabinieri while driving his wife's car without a license.

The result was a fine of five thousand euros and the communication to the judge supervising the infringement. In addition to not being able to get away from Buccinasco, having to stay at home from 21 to 7, Papalia, convicted of murder, possession of weapons, kidnapping and drug trafficking, also has a driving ban, since it has the license revoked. At this point Papalia could lose probation and end up under house arrest.


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Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock.

Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then.


it's evident you don't know what happened in the 1980s...
sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, and i'm not talking only about murders/violence (anyway ndrangheta never killed judges/policemen/jounralists, only a few compared to tons of sicilian mafia) sicilians at that time were strongly liked directly with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician ever, the masonic lodges were stronger at that time, same secret service and sicilian mafia was strongly connected with everyone
also in the 1980s italy was by far more corrupted than today, there were not only thousands of mafia-related murders (today only a few) but also slaughters done by mafia/secrte services/freemasons etc.
concerning abroad sicilians killed several people too, they were the strongest in usa/canada by far ,the stronger in all the northern big italian cities (milan/turin/genoa/bologna) and connections all over europe for heroin trafficking (germany/france/belgium/uk/spain etc.)

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Italian Gambling Operators Terminate Their Malta Licences to Avoid Money-Laundering Probe.

In a joint operation, investigators seized the assets of six companies and revealed that the Calabrian mafia clan ’Ndrangheta owned three Maltese gaming licences through Italian companies, registered in Malta. The organized crime group lad laundered millions of euros, according to the police.

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On 10 March 2018, the police arrested the fugitive Antonino Pesce, considered belonging to the homonymous gang of the 'Ndrangheta, which would also have interests in the transport of citrus fruits. The farmers' association returns to denounce the monopoly of the mafias in the handling of fruit and vegetables.

The operation carried out on March 10 by the Mobile Squad and the Central Police Service in Rosarno, ended with the arrest of Antonino Pesce, once again puts the activities of the 'Ndrangheta in the road haulage of fruit and vegetables in Calabria. In fact, Pesce, considered one of the leaders of the homonymous cosca. According to the investigators he managed the citrus trucking from the Gioia Tauro plain.

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Reggio Calabria, surgeon at the service of the 'ndrangheta. 19 million euros seized

Surgeon's clinic allegedly treated fugitives
(ANSA) - Reggio Calabria, March 15 - Carabinieri and finance police in Reggio Calabria on Thursday seized assets worth 19 million euros from a local surgeon, Francesco Cellini.
The man is suspected of treating fugitive members of local crime syndicate, the 'Ndrangheta, including alleged members Pasquale and Giovanni Tegano, as the legal representative of the Anphora cooperative that manages the local private clinic nova Salus.
The man is a suspect in the anti-mafia Sansone operation dating back to 2016 against the local mafia clans of Condello in Reggio Calabria and Zito-Bertuca, Imerti-Buda in Villa San Giovanni.




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Re: Ndrangheta News [Re: m2w] #933402
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Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock.

Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then.


it's evident you don't know what happened in the 1980s...
sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, and i'm not talking only about murders/violence (anyway ndrangheta never killed judges/policemen/jounralists, only a few compared to tons of sicilian mafia) sicilians at that time were strongly liked directly with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician ever, the masonic lodges were stronger at that time, same secret service and sicilian mafia was strongly connected with everyone
also in the 1980s italy was by far more corrupted than today, there were not only thousands of mafia-related murders (today only a few) but also slaughters done by mafia/secrte services/freemasons etc.
concerning abroad sicilians killed several people too, they were the strongest in usa/canada by far ,the stronger in all the northern big italian cities (milan/turin/genoa/bologna) and connections all over europe for heroin trafficking (germany/france/belgium/uk/spain etc.)


Couldn't agree more M2W, you took the words out of my mouth. Saved me a lot of typing..

I doubt there ever will be another organization in Europe, that had the kind of power, reach and wealth the Sicilian CN had in the 80's and early 90's..

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Re: Ndrangheta News [Re: m2w] #933409
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Pretty amazing when you take into consideration the religious aspect of the group. So because of that do we put then as probably the most powerful crime group of all time? or do they still sit 2nd behind the cartels?


sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, so not the most powerful of all time, it was probably cosa nostra in the 1980s, and american cosa nostra in the 1960s


I find it is difficult to compare. Each of them were a power house in their own era. Now it looks like it is the Ndrangheta in this era.

You must also consider the following facts, the Ndrangheta never received as much public recognition( movies,books ...etc) as did the Sicilian Mafia and the LCN. No other mafia expanded to as many countries globally as much as the Ndrangheta did and are still continuing to expand today.

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Originally Posted by Strax
Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc


'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks


I agree for the most part of your characterization of the Ndrangheta using religious symbols and names to describe their family structure; but I have a small objection as to them being a very religious group. They kill, lame, intimidate, sell drugs, prey on people and other. This is not what Catholicism teaches. I'm assuming that is not what you meant.

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Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc


'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks


I agree for the most part of your characterization of the Ndrangheta using religious symbols and names to describe their family structure; but I have a small objection as to them being a very religious group. They kill, lame, intimidate, sell drugs, prey on people and other. This is not what Catholicism teaches. I'm assuming that is not what you meant.


This is not something i made up just now,that is what they think. One of their most important meetings is next to holy statue. I agree that it makes no sense they being religious group and doing stuff that they do.


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Well-known prosecutor Nicola Gratteri has written a book about the Church's links to 'ndrangheta. Of course it is not mainstream Catholicisme, but pseudo-religious. That's why I called it a sect.


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I find it is difficult to compare. Each of them were a power house in their own era. Now it looks like it is the Ndrangheta in this era.

You must also consider the following facts, the Ndrangheta never received as much public recognition( movies,books ...etc) as did the Sicilian Mafia and the LCN. No other mafia expanded to as many countries globally as much as the Ndrangheta did and are still continuing to expand today.


there is not so much to compare, sicilian mafia in the 1980s was by far stronger

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While the State was fighting Cosa Nostra and vise versa, the 'ndrangheta was completely ignored. That's the main reason it has become such a big factor in every day life in Italy it's much smarter than the bombing massacres of cosa nostra.


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I find it is difficult to compare. Each of them were a power house in their own era. Now it looks like it is the Ndrangheta in this era.

You must also consider the following facts, the Ndrangheta never received as much public recognition( movies,books ...etc) as did the Sicilian Mafia and the LCN. No other mafia expanded to as many countries globally as much as the Ndrangheta did and are still continuing to expand today.


there is not so much to compare, sicilian mafia in the 1980s was by far stronger



The money Ndrangheta make today is much more than the Sicilian mafia did. More money equals more power so you do the math.

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Slovakia crisis: A double murder and allegations of Italian mafia links trigger political chaos

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The money Ndrangheta make today is much more than the Sicilian mafia did. More money equals more power so you do the math.


according to who? sicilian mafia made more money at that time, it produced heroin in italy and involved in tons of other business, invested money even in vatican banks etc.

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Remember while the Sicilian mafia was huge in Sicily, USA and mainland Italy in the 50s till 70s, the Calabrian mafia was still a local thing in 1975. 'Ndrangheta only got big after Falcone and Borsellino really hurt the Sicilans.


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The money Ndrangheta make today is much more than the Sicilian mafia did. More money equals more power so you do the math.


according to who? sicilian mafia made more money at that time, it produced heroin in italy and involved in tons of other business, invested money even in vatican banks etc.




The cocaine trade is worth more than the Heroin trade was back then. And the Ndrangheta is the one of the biggest player in that game, if not the biggest. Look at the bust back then with the heroin trade with sicilians it was 50 kg 100kg. Today with Ndrangheta you see 1 ton 5 tons 8 tons of cocaine shipments.

The Calabrians has penetrated the northern Italy in a way which the Sicilians did not.

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A woman was killed in the late evening in Reggio Calabria while she was in the car with her lover who was injured in the arm. Fortunata Fortugno, 48 years old, has been reached in the head by gun shots fired by several people. The wounded, Demetrio Lo Giudice (53), involved in the "Eremo" operation, is considered a prominent member of the homonymous gang of 'ndrangheta.


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The cocaine trade is worth more than the Heroin trade was back then. And the Ndrangheta is the one of the biggest player in that game, if not the biggest. Look at the bust back then with the heroin trade with sicilians it was 50 kg 100kg. Today with Ndrangheta you see 1 ton 5 tons 8 tons of cocaine shipments.

The Calabrians has penetrated the northern Italy in a way which the Sicilians did not.


sicilian mafia earned more because produced in italy withouth intermediators etc. (some sicilian labs produced 5/6 tons for year and sicily was full of labs)
ndrangheta import it from colombia and also behind big shipments of tons there are usually several different criminal groups, not only one
sicilians were the strongest in northern italy too at that time, anyway they were huge in the united states and connections all over western europe
north italy is nothing compared to the states

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'Little Slavic tiger' Slovakia marred by murder, organized crime, street protests and intrigue

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