Back in 1999 Joca had big problems in Amsterdam,they stole him whole shipment of heroin,he lost around 10 million deutsche marks,he escaped to Bulgaria where Milorad Ulemek Legija set him up to bulgarian police.

But Joca had even bigger problems later with William Vim Holeder(don't know much about that man)According to some sources Joca is even afraid of that man. William Vim Holeder ordered killings of almost all of Joca's associates including his best man Srdjana Miranovica,before Miranovic,Aleksandar Bulatovic was killed in Amsterdam in 2003 and later Mirko Vukmirovic in Spain. In total of 12 Joca's associates were killed.

How i understand its because of Freddy Heineken kidnapping, William Vim Holeder started eliminating everyone who can give any information to police about him being involved in the kidnapping.

According to sources William Vim Holeder clan is strongest in Holland,member of his clan is Luka Bojovic(he is most powerful crime figure in Serbia and one of most powerful in Balkans), also Milos Petrovic who organized killing of Joca's best man Srdjana Miranovica, he was arrested in Holland few years ago.

There are also links with the Hells Angels Amsterdam considered the most important chapter in Europe.

Holleeder had plans for the liquidation of eight people before he was arrested in 2015. That is what his sister Astrid declared to the police. Among them crime leaders Danny K. and Dino S., crime reporter Peter R. de Vries and his own sister Sonja, as well as the prominent Hells Angel Harrie S.and Maruf M., a Bosnian who was regularly seen with Holleeder between 2000 and 2006.

Maruf M. u meant on Maruf Mrzic Paja ? I thought he is close associate of Holleeder. I got interested in this,read a little bit online looks like DIno S. was also close associate of Holleeder , is he afraid someone will rat him to police,so he is eliminating them ? Looks like he is behind a lot of murders , i didn't know he was that brutal , also didn't know u had guys like him over there.

Luka Bojovic's clan did murders for Holleeder , Luka Bojovic is leader of Zemunski Klan,back in late 1990's and early 2000's they were most powerful clan Balkans ever had.They also killed prime minister of Serbia in 2003. According to some Maruf Mrzic Paja set up Luka Bojovic in spain and rat him to police.

Edit: Can you post here about Holleeder upcoming trial ? For six murders,he is really fu*ked.

Yes strax I will post about the trial if there are some highlights with over 60 court days i will be busy the coming year.

Sam & john had a conflict with Joca.

Third day of the trial according to wiretaps Sam Klepper wanted 10 million from Holleeder, they kidnapped his brother Gerard. But the nose would still be around Klepper and Mieremet he also paid them another million. It seems he was afraid/nervous because Sam & John were very dangerous.

Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg, Chief of Amsterdam's police commission, is worried about the perpetrators of liquidations in the city. 'They are disadvantaged, have little prospects, little conscientiousness. And that is a dangerous mix. We hear amounts between 3,000 and 5,000 euros for a liquidation. '
In contrast to the 80s and 90s, when according to the chief commissioner liquidations were carried out by professional hitmen , it is nowadays mainly young boys from Amsterdam, who are already in action for less than a tenth of the amounts paid to professional hired killers. Because of these low amounts, there are amateurs who work with uncontrolled and brutal violence.

Strax, when Holleeder served his sentence for extortion, he was arrested in his cell for the murder of Miranovic, but they hadn't enough proof to have a case. The six murders they now accuse him of are just the tip of the iceberg about thirty people around him were killed.

Holleeder is criminal to the core, no doubt, but it annoys me how the sisters are portrayed in the media as some sort of saints who endured all that abuse from him and never got anything out of it. While the truth isn't that black and white at all..

They also profited from all the money coming in all those years. Astrid was a bit of a consigliere to Holleeder and Sonja was married to Van Hout. What a lot of people also seem to forget is the reason why they flipped. It is very obvious that they finally cooperated with the government because the government was starting to go after the sisters themselves. They wanted to indict them on tax charges and money laundering and that was their incentive to cooperate.

Once again, Holleeder is, without a doubt, a huge scumbag but the trial by media Astid has started and the portrayal of herself as such a victim is annoying and simply incorrect imo..

You're right about the sisters I do think it's brave what they do and all those murders had to stop, but it's a criminal family maybe only Gerard is not involved, but he was fair game when he was abducted. It's unbelievable how many normal people from all over Holland attend the trial he is a celebrity-gangster not because of his sisters or other turncoats like Peter La Serpe or Fred Ros.

LOL

According to Holleeder he did not deal drugs. He only lent money to people who did drugs. And so he did nothing in drugs. "Oh, that's funny," says the judge.

Billy him talking at length is amazing, I never heard this before from a murder suspect.
Holleeder said Astrid had a relation with drug boss The Hakkelaar.

Is there audio of this or only transcripts?

Yeah, the Hakkelaar was the real deal. In the end he couldn't stand Klaas Bruinsma, who he felt looked down on him because he was a Kamper..

I follow the trial on twitter, Saskia Belleman is really good in telling what's going on.

BTW I think the Austrians let Michel Boer go lol.

I have no idea why media here calls him William, i was about to ask you how common is that name in Holland because its not dutch name...

Anyway as our media reports here when talking about Joca, they say Holleeder's clan is most powerful clan in Holland , is that true or just classic media exaggeration ?

As i read more and more about him, i really got impression his sisters are indeed innocent angels,how deeply his sisters were involved in his business?

So actually it is family members turning on each other to save their own ass from jail,what a great family lol


I know that Milos Petrovic was recorded saying "Kill the poodle" to Holleeder which is nickname they gave to Joca because of his hair. The main hitman of Zemunski Klan,Sretko Kalinic who turned state witness was questioned by dutch police in 2012,they wanted to know everything about Luka Bojovic's business in Holland and his ties to Holleeder.

Willem is William in english, Joca speaks dutch but the main language in that world is english. I agree it's a family feud, his sister Astrid , a lawyer, is the same as the nose (his nickname) they can manipulate anybody.
There was a time Stanley Hillis, Dino Soerel and Holleeder were untouchable. but not anymore. If Joca is coming home he can take it all lol.

As soon as i saw pictures of him i got it why they call him the nose,he is like modern day Carlo Gambino lol

The Dutch police will cooperate with local authorities in Colombia, Panama and Spain to combat cocaine trafficking. That says Wilbert Paulissen, head of the national criminal investigation department, in De Telegraaf.The background to the plan is the continuing and probably growing flow of cocaine that is imported by the Dutch in Antwerp and Rotterdam. Paulissen says that in Colombia there will be collaboration with the American Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

Day 4.

"He also does not know that he is so strong," Holleeder says about Dick Vrij who broke his jaw. But actually he thinks that Astrid is the fault of his broken jaw.

The daughter of Johan Verhoek ("De Hakkelaar") has sent a letter to Holleeder's lawyer Sander Janssen in which she says that her father, together with Astrid Holleeder, wanted to seize parts of the criminal legacy of the murdered Cor van Hout.

Joca Amsterdam with Milenko Mandic Manda,Manda was killed together with Arkan in Hotel Intercontinental

Great pic Strax, back in the days (early nineties) all we heard was Jocic killed Klaas Bruinsma, but there were no pictures of him.

Mugshot when he was arrested for shooting at an Amsterdam cop.

His sister Sonja is at this moment the first witness against Holleeder.

NETHERLANDS TURNING INTO A NARCO STATE, SAYS POLICE UNION

https://nltimes.nl/2018/02/20/netherlands-turning-narco-state-says-police-union

What an exaggeration!! If Holland is a Narco State, then what do you call Colombia and Mexico, kinda devalues the term a little bit no?

They probably need more money. Every time the cops do these spectaculair statements they're a little short on cash and hope The Hague will pay up..

Dutch law enforcement isn't naive like they were in the past, but the white collar criminals are still pretty much untouchable.

Tense day in court, Sonja was very emotional sometimes screaming.

The first hours filled with sweet conversations between Willem, Sonja and her children; the last few hours a technical debate broke out about Sonja's money flows.

Now that Sonja and her sister Astrid put their brother in their statements as an unscrupulous beast that terrorized their lives, Holleeder's lawyer Sander Janssen wanted to know how 'thousands' of tapped conversations and messages can be found in the file in which Holleeder, a dear family man it seems, overloaded his sister and, above all, his niece and nephew with gifts for which they always thanked their 'uncle'.

In the afternoon it was mainly about the much-discussed legacy of Cor van Hout. The house in Spain, the prostitution houses in Alkmaar, financed with the ransom of the Heineken kidnapping.

Sonja Holleeder bought off 1.1 million euros for money laundering. It was only recently that she started to tell a new story, which according to her is the complete truth.
That change was preceded by months of negotiations with the State.

Lawyer Janssen would like to know what kind of new agreement with the State Sonja has made.. The court determines Friday afternoon whether Sonja should tell about it.

I feel like his sisters are even worse than he is,once they realized they will be prosecuted, they turned on brother,only to save their own asses,acting they are like saints terrorized by him, oh god...

In the world of the Holleeders everything revolves around money of course Sonja's husband was killed so I can imagine they want some kind of revenge, but she also wants to keep Van Hout his investments financed with the ransom of the Alfred Heineken kidnapping.

Joca when he was arrested in Bulgaria



Joca with his best man Zabac,Zabac was famous during the 90's for driving best cars in country, he even had famous Lamborghini Diablo that he got from prince of monaco.