When they say agent i know its a different language up there. They mean he was a sworn in cop or a confidential informant working for the police? Either way what a shit show. It will be fascinating when it comes out but why would it. This guy were all assuming or i am is located in montreal will he ever even testify in nyc federal court about whoever was buying and selling a kilo of coke. With the sal the iron worker murder the judge sealed everything from the public but alot leaked to the press up there. The arm was always writting about the buffalo family i dont ever remember anyone saying the violi kids were part of that family makes sense the grandfather was and after there father was killed they were sent to him in buffalo territory. I did see the todaro jr on the travel channel a few times . When ever one of them food show hosts travel there hes on talking pizza or wings.

The Violi brothers have always been with Buffalo. Todaro Jr. only gets tribute on occasion, his son is actually a real capable guy with lots of ties in Niagara and Hamilton

It's also interesting the 'ndrangheta has established such strong links to the American LCN.

To put it in perspective. Violi sr was a made bonanno in montreal under controni. Also he must have been made probaly by joe bonanno late 50tys 60tys. When phil rusty wants the captain's vote to become official boss in 1973 controni sends violi sr to some nice hotel in Manhattan to vote for rusty. Rusty goes to jail in 75 carmine galante takes power gives nick rizutto sr the ok to kill guys and take over montreal i think. And the violi sons held that grudge for 40 yrs and slaughterd the whole rizzuto family.

The Violis didnt slaughter the whole Rizzuto family. Many more teams killing the Rizzutos than them.

Probably only the guys who were behind the murder of their father and uncles.

Nick scarfo had the luchese family in new jersey protect his son nick jr from the south philly guys and eventually they made him a luchese member. Seems like the grandfather luppino or watever the name brought his grandkids into the buffalo family. Yaeh weres thearm and mrjustsayno. Cold out.

Pmac: Think those boys were run off here ! Cold down here .

Yeah, It's similar to Greg DePalma telling that fat Cuban FBI agent Jack that he was gonna get made. He was just getting his hooks in him to bleed him for all he could, so he tell him whatever he wanted to here.

These bust show us that unless you're involved in that life you really don't know what's going on. There are always guys in these bust that were under the radar and high ranking who nobody knew about like that Corso guy in the Crea bust.

This is basically what goes on with every associate who wants to get their button. Not just with Garcia. The capos squeeze them for all the cash they can get from them and tell them that maybe one day, if they play by the rules and keep kicking money up, he might, just might get straighten out. Not only did that happen to Garcia but to Pistone aswell with Lefty and it also happens to every associate who's in the life. If you are not earning you aint getting in. And if you aren't kicking up you can't be on record and fly under the family flag. If the associate can sustain all the kicking up he will eventually be proposed as long of course, if he keeps his mouth shut, plays by the rule, keep kicking up, can do jail time and is capable of comitting violence then he might get proposed. Just my opinion.

In the vice Canada article it says a undercover confidential i formant not a cop. Im leaning towards a montreal guy whose been around and stared working for the Canada agents to get out of a big drug case. Probaly was throwing around the agencys money.

Buffalo Family still active?
I thought they were ending in the same way as the Kansas family.
How many families of the American Cosa Nostra are still alive?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mafia-initiation-ceremony-details-revealed-fbi-transcript-1647140

Mafia initiation ceremony details revealed in FBI transcript

Definitely still alive everyone, please save your opinions they arent. Kansas City is probably the most likely other than Buffalo and Detroit to be alive (as an actual crime family) out of the small families.

It really is something how some of these families been involved in that life for generations, and the fact they survive to this day. Love them or hate'em, it's impressive.

You have to be careful listening to these so called experts claiming certain families is defunct, these experts is leading you astray because they have family and friends in those families

Also you have to remember the Feds claims that they got rid of the mob and spent loads of cash doing so .

Now all these city's that once had families are all of a sudden completely rid of mob members is ridiculous . Not that is 1970 but that is what they do and for many there sons and nephews etc are involved at some point .

I would say there are still many members involved in crime under the old flag of the mob .

I only know about one that is supposed to be gone and when I go to see the old boys it just like it was minus the outward appearance that some of the NY and Philly guys have done. These guys just adjusted to what they can do in all aspects and are laying low like it should be.

They are not flamboyant they do not live above their means and do not talk it up and that huge if you want to have a thing going .

I guess we will see soon because I am sure the Feds will want to cash in on anything they can just like the men they hunt.

2002 Halton Police report had intelligence on accused mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/...ed-mobster.html

Good article. With these recent events, we will start to be privy to more information about these two brothers.

There is some serious discussion on the forums about whether these Violis were made into an American LCN family. I've always assumed that Domenico and Giuseppe Violi were inducted into the Luppino 'ndrina once they were old enough--this would have had to happen after grandfather Giacomo died unless, as boys, they were made at a young age. It would be crazy if, just like their father, they were made into an American LCN family.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/halton-police-report-1.4404934

Hamilton police officers allegedly aided accused mobster, leaked report reveals

Ndrangheta: In the Società Minore, the lowest tier is occupied by the giovane d'onore (youth of honor), which are descendants of Ndrangheta members and would make them honorary members by blood right.
I believe the two brothers being Giacomo's grandchildren would qualify them to be Giovone d'onore at birth & become members at age of maturity if they so desire.
Where people differ on this subject is whether there is such a thing as dual membership, in other words can a Ndrangheta member from Calabria or Mafia member from Sicily settling in Canada for example, also become member of the LCN ? There are those that do believe the Violi's, Luppino's and/or the Rizzuto's fall in one of those two scenarios. There are others that believe you must quit one to become the other.
Taking into account either scenario, permission would be needed and it would have to benefit both parties.

I believe they can be both Paolo Violi was a member of Bonanno and 'ndrangheta.

The Violi brothers have connections all over Europe that's only possible when they are tied to 'ndrangheta.

@Ciment @Hollander I hope to reply in a bit to your last one or two posts, as the case may be. Perhaps I'll address everything in one post.
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For now, let's all enjoy the photos tweeted by the private investigator Derrick Snowdy, the one who provided the Star newspaper in Toronto with copies of the Halton Police intelligence report.

Links to tweets (photos):

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If you want to see some of the comments in relation to these photos, go to the following links, some of which will take you to the same thread:

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407536364703745

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407609437900805

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929407716854034432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/929446127845421057

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930955061399826432

https://twitter.com/jdsnowdy/status/930956426335408128

Antimafia

Good info...... thanks

So those mustaino brothers were trying to get that guy ken murd... to kill the violis brothers after frank paps was killed who was backing them and im sure there dead today cause they tried to kill the violi bros. Really interesting its so far away from montreal.

Looking forward to that, the subject of double affiliation could clarify a bit what is going on in Canada. In Italy we have seen 'ndrangheta and camorra bosses who were made in cosa nostra.

Someone posted violi sr wire from the early 70tys and he was saying how you could be a made guy in the italian family's but you also had to be inducted into the american familys. Seems the violis were part of the buffalo family but also a cell of the narrgetta or how you spell it. The father was a bonanno guy but probaly with the nar...... same with the cherry hill gambinos think they were all made in sicily but when they came to the usa carlo gambino inducted them into the lcn to put them on a even playing field like all the rest of the guys in nyc.

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7929188-searching-for-a-mobster-s-killer/#.WhBVCkyzAsJ.twitter

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