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Heroin overdose deaths are skyrocketing in Mississippi, on pace to reach 26 by year’s end.
Several years ago, the state averaged one death a year from the drug, according to state Department of Health numbers.
“A year ago, I might hardly see a heroin addict,” said Dr. Randy Easterling of Vicksburg, medical director of the Marion Hill Chemical Dependency Unit. “Now I see one every day.”
Heroin overdose deaths in the U.S. have nearly quadrupled over the past decade. Experts blame this spike on both contaminated supplies of heroin and using the drug after being addicted to other opioid painkillers, such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, morphine and methadone.
A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention makes clear that heroin, once the scourge of the inner city, has moved into the suburbs with middle-aged white women seeing some of the largest jumps in use of the illegal narcotic.
The CDC is urging states and health care providers to help curb the growing problem by addressing addiction to prescription painkillers, increasing access to substance abuse treatment and expanding access to naloxone, a drug that can help reduce deaths after people suffer opioid overdoses.
Between 2009 and 2011, heroin overdose deaths remained at one per year in Mississippi, according to death certificates collected by the Health Department. In 2012, three were reported. By 2013, that number rose to six.
Those numbers are slightly higher than the heroin deaths reported by county coroners to the state Bureau of Narcotics, which reported one death in 2013 and four deaths in 2014.
More disturbingly, there have been 13 deaths in just the first six months this year, on pace to reach 26 by year’s end.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/08/08/heroin-od-deaths-spike-mississippi/31330451/


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Research fentanyl overdoses. It's spreading across the Midwest and has been for a year or so.

I've had two friends die of fentanyl deaths in recent months. Fentanyl is a fake or synthetic form of heroin. It carries (I've heard) around a 1000 times risk of overdose compared to normal street heroin.

A hit of smack in Detroit costs five bucks, so if a hit of fake fentanyl hammer kills you, your life wasn't worth a fiver to the skag dealer.

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A hit of smack is five bucks? Is pot still ~$15-20/gram in most states?

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@night timer,

Fentanyl is definitely the upcoming drug scourge.

LOT of overdoses across the country.



Rest in peace to the your friends who passed away.May they find peace in that realm that they couldn't find in this one.

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily

A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention makes clear that heroin, once the scourge of the inner city, has moved into the suburbs with middle-aged white women seeing some of the largest jumps in use of the illegal narcotic.


When it was mostly confined to Black and Brown people in the 'hood, heroin addicts were written off as scumbags and lowlives.

Now, as H and other drugs have spread across every demographic...drug addicts are "victims who need counseling". Cops even carry heroin overdose antidote kits now to save addicts from OD'ing.

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from the Godfather, was wrong!!!!

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The shit they're cutting it with is dropping bodies everywhere. Kid I grew up with died from sniffin one bag in paterson around my way.

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Heroin still isn't a popular market in MS. It's noticeable in the counties near the N.O metro and somewhat the Memphis metro.


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It's a huge problem in jersey ... When I tell you 15-20 kids I grew up with have died in the past 18 months I'm not exaggerating bruh...

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Memphis heroin market is growing, they also have a large methadone customer base. Here in St Louis, a few guys I know are still selling crack because there is still a large older customer base but they have recently started to move into the heroin market because they've finally realized the crack market is not growing, where as heroin is.

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It's been spreading all over Michigan for a decade now. Was rather popular in the topical patch form with the laborer/manufacturing/construction worker types suffering from chronic back pain around here, knew a lot of people who used it. Unfortunately an opiate of reasonable potency is still an opiate and no one can sniff out the latest form faster than a heroin addict.

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its black tar heroin, it has flooded the south since 2001, it's cheap and easily accessible. In New Orleans a dime bag would be 50 prior,

The middle man has been cut out and black tar is the new deal

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Now W-18 is coming in from Canada.
Allegedly it is 100-1000 Times deadlier than fen.

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Prince died from fentanyl overdose

excerpt from article

http://www.startribune.com/prince-died-from-opioid-overdose/381663221/


Prince died from an accidental, self-administered overdose of the powerful drug fentanyl, the Midwest Medical Examiner’s Office said in a report released Thursday.

The report gave no indication of how Prince obtained the painkiller, nor did it list any other cause of death or “significant conditions.”

The 57-year-old musician was pronounced dead the morning of April 21, one day before he was scheduled to meet with a California doctor in an attempt to shed an opioid addiction. Two of his staff members — longtime friend Kirk Johnson and personal assistant Meron Bekure — found his body in a Paisley Park elevator about 9:40 a.m.

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scarier turn

now fiends are shooting up Carfentanil which is elephant tranquilizer

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/heal...-388519832.html

A drug used by veterinarians to sedate elephants, rhinos, and other large animals is now ending up on the streets—with deadly consequences.

Carfentanil, one of the strongest opioids in the world, is suspected in a new rash of overdoses around the country, The Associated Press reported Thursday. It’s been found mixed with or disguised as heroin.

An Ohio man was charged with murder this week in Columbus for selling carfentanil that led to two deaths and nine other overdoses within a few hours. Some of the survivors thought they were just taking heroin, the AP reported. Rayshon Alexander, the suspected dealer, pled not guilty.

The drug has also been suspected in overdoses or seized in central Kentucky and the Tampa Bay and Sarasota areas in Florida.

Officials say it’s the latest deadly addition in an arms war of drug dealers looking to create the strongest highs, no matter the consequences to their customers. “They know that’s the high that’ll take you right up to the edge, maybe kill you, maybe not,” Joseph Pinjuh, the head of a drug task force for the U.S. attorney in Cleveland, told the AP. “That’s the high that they want.”

The new cases come as law enforcement officials are already struggling to deal with fentanyl, an extremely potent painkiller that’s been used in heroin and also led to overdoses. But carfentanil is 100 times stronger than fentanyl.

When used on on animals, veterinarians wear face masks, gloves, and aprons covering as much of their skin as possible. A single drop that splashes in your mouth, nose, or eye could be fatal, and even getting some on your skin is dangerous. An antidote for the drug is kept ready whenever a tranquilizer is being prepared.

“Our veterinarians handle it almost like uranium,” Dr. Rob Hilsenroth, the executive director of the American Association of Zoo Veterinarians, told me. “This blows my mind that people are playing with such a dangerous drug.”

Carfentanil is so strong that it’s referenced as the drug used to tranquilize a tyrannosaurus rex in the 1997 movie The Lost World: Jurassic Park. And naloxone, a typical overdose antidote administered by police, may not be effective enough to stop the drug’s effects.

This isn’t the first drug for animals that has found its way onto the street. In the ’90s, a cat anesthetic called ketamine became a popular date rape drug. In one case, Hilsenroth said, a dealer using a stolen DEA license number for a veterinarian in Africa managed to order thousands of viles of the drug and sell it in New York City.

Small animal hospitals have also been burglarized for their drugs over the years, and now they are required to keep animal medicine in a locked safe. “People have been looking for all different ways to get this stuff,” Hilsenroth said.

It’s not clear where the carfentanil leading to overdoses is coming from: whether it’s stolen from a legitimate source, imported from abroad, or cooked up by someone in a kitchen or laboratory.

What we do know is that this drug is in a category all its own. “What is the world coming to?” Hilsenroth wondered

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Saw an ad last night of Chris Christie promoting the new free helpline for drug addicts

NJ Connect for Recovery



Just wish this much effort had been made to help addicts before the public face of addiction changed demographics.

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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Saw an ad last night of Chris Christie promoting the new free helpline for drug addicts

NJ Connect for Recovery



Just wish this much effort had been made to help addicts before the public face of addiction changed demographics.


Chris Christie is a great example of someone who understands the problem. He was a prosecutor and jailed countless addicts and drunk drivers. Then one of his successful attorney friends OD'd.

He talks about this openly and very skillfully, in a departure from his usual blowhard persona. If you can dig up any of Christie's addiction talks on youtube, it's definitely worth a listen. He goes into great detail about how his friend was a powerful NJ attorney until the guy broke his back and got a Percocet prescription. In two years the guy lost his marriage, his kids, his house and his life. One Percocet prescription, then onto heroin. And the guy was millionaire attorney who rarely drank and rose through the NJ judicial system.

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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Just wish this much effort had been made to help addicts before the public face of addiction changed demographics.


Also a good point, imho.

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Thanks Flushing,

So, the drug epidemic hit Christie in a close way.

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Cant even begin to tell you how often people I grew up with drop dead from heroin in my area. A couple weeks go by, and we are wondering why nobody has died...

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More non violent crimes by the dealers !!

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151 overdoses in FOUR days in Louisville,KY




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Local cops aren't even trying to hide the reasons they're treating these drug addicts differently than past addicts of other drugs.

What happened to the broken window theory and being "tough on crime"?

Some may read my past comments on this issue and get puzzled because I'm not usually a hot head, but this double standard STINKS!!!!!!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/chan...ticle-1.3181986


Staten Island District Attorney Michael McMahon, whose borough sits behind only the South Bronx in per capita opioid deaths, is among the law enforcers supporting a new way of dealing with those at the bottom of the drug world’s food chain.

“The attitude has changed, and it's a positive thing,” he said. “We have family members or neighbors, relatives and friends who are suffering from this crisis ... Many of the police officers who lived out here on Staten Island, they were personally affected by the crisis.


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Handcuffs and lockups are out as the weapons of choice in the battle against the city’s exploding opioid crisis.

The NYPD, in a revision of procedure and policy, has embraced an evolving approach to the city's spiraling epidemic: Keeping low-level addicts alive and out of jail, while still incarcerating big-time drug dealers.

“One of the most overused phrases in law enforcement today is ‘You can't arrest your way out of this problem,’” says NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Operations Dermot Shea inside his office at Police Headquarters.

“It’s very true in this particular case, it really is. There is an enforcement piece to what we see ... But it’s not going to deal (with) the entire problem.”

NYC mother’s loss echoes national heroin addiction crisis

Staten Island District Attorney Michael McMahon, whose borough sits behind only the South Bronx in per capita opioid deaths, is among the law enforcers supporting a new way of dealing with those at the bottom of the drug world’s food chain.

“The attitude has changed, and it's a positive thing,” he said. “We have family members or neighbors, relatives and friends who are suffering from this crisis ... Many of the police officers who lived out here on Staten Island, they were personally affected by the crisis.

“And they welcome a new approach. It's hitting their community, their family, their neighborhoods.”

The new normal is apparent in a variety of ways in law enforcement and beyond.

How NYC’s opioid epidemic plays out in the Bronx

— The Heroin Overdose Prevention & Education (HOPE) program launched on Staten Island this year to steer low-level drug offenders into treatment instead of jail.

— Quarterly meetings of the RX Stat Operations Group bring together 25 agencies — law enforcement, health officials, local and federal prosecutors and other groups — to the front lines of the fight. The participants compare notes and develop new answers to old problems.

The concept is similar to the COMPSTAT, a data-driven crime-mapping program that helped the NYPD drive crime to historic lows.
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"You can't arrest your way out of this problem," NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Operations Dermot Shea admits. (Howard Simmons/New York Daily News)

— Bronx addicts have access to drug testing strips, ensuring they don't get a surprise hit of the deadly fentanyl increasingly used to cut their heroin or other drugs.

A rundown of how the city is combating the opioid crisis

— A public service campaign will spread word of the state's Good Samaritan law, which allows anyone reporting an overdose (including the victim) to call 911 without fear of arrest.

— Advocates are waging a battle for controversial supervised injection facilities where active drug users can shoot up in a location safer than an alley or an abandoned building.

— Life-saving naloxone is available without a prescription at Walgreens in 33 states, including New York, in an effort to help stem overdoses. About 17,000 NYPD officers are already equipped with the opioid antidote, and the rest of the force will undergo training for its use. City cops saved 80 overdose victims last year on Staten Island using the medication.

The changing approach to opioid abuse comes in response to the sobering statistics in the nation's largest city. From 2000 to 2015, the rates of fatal opioid overdoses - including from heroin and pain pills - tripled across the five boroughs.

NYPD plans to spend $17.9M to combat city's opioid epidemic

The citywide death totals last year: 1,075 opioid-involved deaths, up from 753 the year before and more than double the combined number of New York homicides (311) and car wrecks (220).

The NYPD believes filling Rikers Island with addicts is not the solution.

“We want to make a distinction between the person that's bringing drugs in, polluting a community, versus somebody who's an addict themselves that's selling to support their habit,” Shea said. “Do we arrest that person? Absolutely, we do.

“But if we have to choose a case, we're going after the case that has a bigger impact. We don't want the drug kingpin, the El Chapo, getting diverted out of the system.”

Are you or a family member struggling with opioid addiction? Find resources here

Dealing with the problem takes a village of agencies, part of the new approach to the vexing plague. The RX Stat meetings offer a wider range of suggestions and possible solutions, as folks from all sides of the issue share their thoughts.
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Faces of opioid addiction in the Bronx

The meetings are convened by the NYPD, the Health Department and the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA) program - a federally-funded enforcement initiative run by the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

“In between, there are lots of small meetings,” said Susan Herman, NYPD Deputy Chief for Collaborative Policing. “Everyone’s coming together to save lives.”

Shea cited a pair of cases that underscore the difficulties of dealing with drug addicts who feel like they have no options when it comes to getting help.

Cops revive 1-year-old who overdosed on mom’s methadone

"We had a case where we interviewed somebody," he recalled. "A week later, that person was dead. We have cases where pregnant women, with their significant other - we respond, and he's dead. Same house, eight hours later - now she's overdosed."

The HOPE program is designed to change that dynamic. Drug possession suspects are offered a chance to get clean instead of getting a rap sheet. To be eligible suspects must be arrested for misdemeanor drug possession, provided they have no significant criminal history or outstanding warrants.

A peer coach is teamed with the defendant to steer the drug user to a local recovery center within seven days. If the defendant is determined to “meaningfully engage” in the program within 37 days, the DA declines to prosecute and the case disappears.

Through the first four months of HOPE, 155 Staten Island defendants were offered the option of entering the program, with 89% signing on for the alternative to prosecution. It's still early, but McMahon says that 95% of them are either done with the program or currently involved.

Here's who to contact if you're struggling with opioid addiction

Shea said the low-level arrests and prosecutions became part of an endless cycle where little if anything was accomplished.

“If you look at what happens on those arrests, no one goes to jail,” Shea said. “You can quote me on that: No one goes to jail. We're trying to break that cycle on our part - on that hamster wheel, continuing the same thing, arrest the same person five times in six months.

“What are we accomplishing here?”
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Bronx paramedic Robert Kelly has a daily firsthand look at the consequences of opioid abuse. (Marcus Santos)

The drug suspects can also provide information about dealers and provide drugs for analysis, allowing police to trace particularly lethal batches of heroin and make arrests. Shea gets a daily report on every drug sale arrest in the city, and the NYPD now investigates every overdose as a crime scene.

Cops grab 66-year-old man on bike selling fentanyl-laced heroin

“We've added and are in the process of adding more people in our lab to test all product from overdoses so that we know what's on the street,” Herman said.

Another issue is the increasing appearance of fentanyl, a drug 50 times more powerful than heroin, in other drugs like Xanax, cocaine and heroin. One-third of last year's 90 Staten Island overdose cases involved fentanyl, said McMahon - who expects that number to hit 50% as more numbers come in.

Even more powerful opioids are appearing. Carfentanil, used to tranquilize elephants, is 10,000 times more potent than morphine. It’s often mixed with heroin or other drugs. The similarly lethal synthetic U47700 - also known as ‘Pinky’ or ‘U4’ - comes in tablets or powder. It was linked by the end of last year to nearly 50 deaths, including at least 30 in New York state.

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Heroin suppliers nabbed through probe of Washington Square Park

Tino Fuentes was a heroin dealer back in the mid-‘80s, when the drug was so pure it was often cut with baby laxatives - a move that kept customers alive and provided the dealer with more product.

Fentanyl is now the choice for dealers to make their heroin supply last longer.

The reason is simple: Greed. Fentanyl is cheaper than heroin, giving the sellers more bang for their buck - and the users a potentially lethal blast.

“The dealers, really - it's a money proposition,” Shea said.

Heroin or fentanyl were responsible for 970 of the city's 2016 opioid overdose deaths, according to the Health Department.
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Tino Fuentes stands in front of the St. Ann's Corner of Harm Reduction in the Bronx where he was the director of syringe access program. (Anthony DelMundo/New York Daily News)

“Heroin users are getting drugs and they don’t know what's in them anymore,” said Daniel Raymond, policy director at the Harm Reduction Coalition. “The results are increasingly lethal.”

St. Ann’s Corner of Harm Reduction, where Fuentes was until recently the director of the syringe access program, has long provided testing for HIV/AIDS and hepatitis, and educational workshops and a variety of support groups.

Beginning in January, the center rolled out its latest service: distributing test strips to drug users in what was believed to be a first of its kind program.

Addicts could use the 6-inch strips, typically meant for urine drug tests, to find out exactly what was in their dope. A single line on the strip sends the warning signal: Fentanyl.

Fuentes ran a field test when the strips first arrived.

“On my own time, I went out to different spots and got heroin,” he said. “Out of six bags, five of them tested positive for fentanyl.”

Not every addict heeds the warning.

Vincente Estepa, 47, started using heroin two decades back when he was in his 20s. The Bronx man said some users, rather than dodging fentanyl, will go in search of heroin laced with the super-powerful opioid.

"Everybody wants to cop whatever's killing people," said the Bronx man. "It sounds crazy, but that's the way it is."

Brett Wolfson-Stofko, a John Jay College of Criminal Justice instructor and drug overdose researcher, is among those urging the city to go even further by establishing supervised injection facilities, known as SIFs, to provide a safe haven for drug addicts. Users can take drugs under medical supervision at such locations.
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The controversial facilities — two were recently approved to deal with the opioid crisis in Seattle — cut down on overdoses and the spread of disease, he said. The Washington state city reports an opioid overdose roughly every 36 hours, and would become the first U.S. city to open an SIF.

The plan is somewhat reminiscent of a memorable episode of the HBO series "The Wire," where a Baltimore police supervisor creates "Hamsterdam" — a designated free zone for the drug trade to operate.

Wolfson-Stofko, who has relatives battling addiction, specifically cites the increasing amount of fentanyl now sold in other street drugs as a prime reason for the facilities.

“As a society we habitually choose to restrict services for people while they're actively using drugs,” he wrote to the Daily News. “At the same time, we all agree that someone cannot turn their lives around if they're dead. There is an urgent need for services that keep people alive and healthy until they are willing to go into treatment.”

New York City Special Narcotics Prosecutor Bridget Brennan supports such measures as clean needle distribution and increased naloxone availability.

But those approaches do little to address the underlying crisis, she said.

“We can never expect those kinds of solutions to help us reduce overdose rates overall and decrease the number of people who are becoming addicted,” Brennan said. “To do that we really have to decrease the supply of addictive drugs on the streets.”

Some experts say attitudes about addiction need to shift even further if the opioid crisis can ever be contained.

“Historically, addiction has been seen as a moral failing so it’s been treated completely differently than other medical conditions,” said Dr. Chinazo Cunningham, a primary care doctor and addiction specialist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine and Montefiore Health System.

In Cunningham’s perfect world, many things would change. Two major shifts that she would like to see: More addicts treated by primary care doctors with enhanced training in treating addiction, and loosened restrictions allowing users to more easily obtain medications like methadone and buprenorphine.
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The result: less stigma, more access.

“We know from decades of research that medication-assisted treatment is the most effective way of treating this,” Cunningham said. “It’s not so different than treating high blood pressure or heart disease.”

Everybody involved acknowledges there's no panacea for the complicated crisis, even as they work toward live-saving answers.

How NYC's opioid epidemic plays out in the Bronx

“People who would have been arrested in an era before are not being arrested now,” Herman said. “Are they getting what they need? Are they getting treatment? Are they getting housing?

“What are they getting now that will keep them on the right path?” she says before her voice trails off. “We’re doing as much as we can, but ... ”

NYPD colleague Shea says there's no crystal ball where law enforcement can peer into the future and see the solution.

“I wish I could paint a rosy picture,” he said. “I can’t. If I was going to give you a time frame for the future - three months, three weeks, six months, we’re going to knock it down X percent - I’m not going to be able to tell you that today.

“I can tell you we’re doing a lot more and we have concrete plans.”


NYPD needs to GTFOH with this selective compassion for criminals. mad

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lol lol lol

Complete 180° in this time frame Gets.


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So basically shooting plain old heroin is not considered high enough anymore?

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Originally Posted By: alicecooper
So basically shooting plain old heroin is not considered high enough anymore?


It's all about the money. Cutting it with fentanyl is cheaper. Only need to add micrograms of that fentanyl stuff, giving better high to your users and giving dealers more money in their pockets. That's if you don't kill them. But even when the users die, other users WANT that good shit that killed the ppl who just died.


Blame the pharmaceutical companies who started this epidemic fifteen years ago with pills. All these kids were hooked on pills. What a shame! Big business always wins.

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Research fentanyl overdoses. It's spreading across the Midwest and has been for a year or so.

I've had two friends die of fentanyl deaths in recent months. Fentanyl is a fake or synthetic form of heroin. It carries (I've heard) around a 1000 times risk of overdose compared to normal street heroin.

A hit of smack in Detroit costs five bucks, so if a hit of fake fentanyl hammer kills you, your life wasn't worth a fiver to the skag dealer.


I was watching the 5th season of The Wire again, and would you believe that the word Fentanyl came up?

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Show ended in 2008. People have been dropping dead from this stuff from at least 2007.

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I switched hospitals and during orientation last week, we went over drug diversion. Congratulations America! 10% of our population is prescribed opiates, we consume 75% of the global supply of opiates, and 95% of hydrocodone is consumed in the u.s. Drugs are bad, mmm k. What's everyone's opinion on how to name this end? If you cut big pharm out, we're where we're at now. How do you get everyone to say NO. Without demand there is no need for supply.

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Wow, great catch Gets.. I thought Fentanyl only started popping up within the past 5 years or so..

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Originally Posted By: blueracing347
I switched hospitals and during orientation last week, we went over drug diversion. Congratulations America! 10% of our population is prescribed opiates, we consume 75% of the global supply of opiates, and 95% of hydrocodone is consumed in the u.s. Drugs are bad, mmm k. What's everyone's opinion on how to name this end? If you cut big pharm out, we're where we're at now. How do you get everyone to say NO. Without demand there is no need for supply.


There is no way 10% is prescribed opiates. Maybe 10% have at one time had a prescription during their lifetime or something like that.

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Sorry, it was 1 percent. That was 2014 or 2015 stats. It was on a power point, no hand outs. Regardless, the statistics were staggering.

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