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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: Stubbs] #916715
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs
What I don't get is: If Daniel Marino sent his nephew James Hydell to kill Casso in '86, why would Marino then reach out to Casso and the Lukes during the same time period to kill Gotti in the bomb that killed Frank DeCicco?

Marino never sent hydell to kill gaspipe....angelo ruggiero did. Casso called angelo a idiot and a blabbermouth. Angelo got pissed and ordered paradiso to kill casso and paradiso sent hydell

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: JCrusher] #916721
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: Stubbs
What I don't get is: If Daniel Marino sent his nephew James Hydell to kill Casso in '86, why would Marino then reach out to Casso and the Lukes during the same time period to kill Gotti in the bomb that killed Frank DeCicco?

Marino never sent hydell to kill gaspipe....angelo ruggiero did. Casso called angelo a idiot and a blabbermouth. Angelo got pissed and ordered paradiso to kill casso and paradiso sent hydell


That's completely crazy. Angelo was a soldier in the Gambinos and Casso was a captain in the Lukes and became underboss around this time. I wonder why the hell Angelo thought he could get away with that?


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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: Stubbs] #916722
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs
What I don't get is: If Daniel Marino sent his nephew James Hydell to kill Casso in '86, why would Marino then reach out to Casso and the Lukes during the same time period to kill Gotti in the bomb that killed Frank DeCicco?

Marino never sent hydell to kill gaspipe....angelo ruggiero did. Casso called angelo a idiot and a blabbermouth. Angelo got pissed and ordered paradiso to kill casso and paradiso sent hydell


That's completely crazy. Angelo was a soldier in the Gambinos and Casso was a captain in the Lukes and became underboss around this time. I wonder why the hell Angelo thought he could get away with that?

actually angelo was a captain. Angelo took over gottis old crew after paul was killed an gotti took over in december 85. The whole hydell/casso thing took place in september—october 1986. Gotti was also on trial during this time so angelo and sammy were running the day to day stuff.

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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916723
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Found a link on this. Looks like Casso was the underboss and Angelo got shelved for this incident. I guess Gotti becoming boss went straight to Angelo's head that he thought he could whack an underboss of another family and get away with it. Insane.

Also, seems like Marino didnt know his nephew was involved, but later washed his hands of him once he learned of the failed hit.

Glad to have the history buffs here on the boards to correct me when I'm wrong!


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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: JCrusher] #916724
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: Stubbs
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs
What I don't get is: If Daniel Marino sent his nephew James Hydell to kill Casso in '86, why would Marino then reach out to Casso and the Lukes during the same time period to kill Gotti in the bomb that killed Frank DeCicco?

Marino never sent hydell to kill gaspipe....angelo ruggiero did. Casso called angelo a idiot and a blabbermouth. Angelo got pissed and ordered paradiso to kill casso and paradiso sent hydell


That's completely crazy. Angelo was a soldier in the Gambinos and Casso was a captain in the Lukes and became underboss around this time. I wonder why the hell Angelo thought he could get away with that?

actually angelo was a captain. Angelo took over gottis old crew after paul was killed an gotti took over in december 85. The whole hydell/casso thing took place in september—october 1986


Thanks JCrusher, that makes sense! Still nuts he tried to take out the underboss of another family!


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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916725
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No problem stubbs. Angelo had a lot of balls but no brains. No wonder him and gotti were lifelong friends(until this incident),also angelo was really affected by his brothers death even though sal ruggiero was a bigtime heroin dealer

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916726
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But are you sure Casso was underboss already, when they tried to whack him? I thought that, with all those legal proceedings during the Commission trial, Tony Ducks's 100 year sentence was definitely upheld in 1987 only, so before that, Amuso and Casso weren't official boss and underboss yet? Although I often get specific dates confused, so can't be sure.


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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: Dwalin2011] #916727
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
But are you sure Casso was underboss already, when they tried to whack him? I thought that, with all those legal proceedings during the Commission trial, Tony Ducks's 100 year sentence was definitely upheld in 1987 only, so before that, Amuso and Casso weren't official boss and underboss yet? Although I often get specific dates confused, so can't be sure.

he wasnt the underboss yet

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916730
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If they let Furnari out, Casso will eventually see the outside world.
They probably are waiting for an illness to hit, and then he will be given a release.

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916731
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"If i needed a few extra dollars that day I would just take something put it on the truck and sell it to the truck driver".

This explanation never quite made sense to me

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #916732
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
If they let Furnari out, Casso will eventually see the outside world.
They probably are waiting for an illness to hit, and then he will be given a release.



Didn't he have pancreatic cancer?

Frank Locascio is supposed to be pretty fucked up but he still hasn't been let out despite his vehement protestations.

Locascio must look at the sentences guys like Sal Avellino and Anthony Baratta got during the same timeframe and feel really hard done by.


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Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: TheChickenMan] #916744
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Think if locascio got a seperit trial and went after gottis he woulr have plead out should have asked anyway. But i think won of his appeals was gotti was controlling franks own lawyer and defense. He still wants the unedited tapes from the ravenite where hes says he told gotti to take a bag of money from dibono and let him be. Even all the guys who killed those 2 garbage guys on long island are all free today.

Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: Giacomo] #916770
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Originally Posted By: Giacomo
Casso's next-door neighbor, Philip Carlo, wrote a book about him that had a lot of Casso's own claims in it. Casso says the government took all of his information and then fed it to Sammy Gravano, but that they were suppressing Casso's information on numerous other murders and drug deals that Sammy had never confessed to (and would obviously destroy his credibility on the stand). And that the Feds wanted Gotti and would do anything they could to get him.

He also says he was offered a five-year deal but the FBI never honored it, and he had nothing in writing.
Read that book This is true..


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
Re: Found Gas pipe Casso full 60 minutes [Re: hoodlum] #916790
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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Originally Posted By: Giacomo
Casso's next-door neighbor, Philip Carlo, wrote a book about him that had a lot of Casso's own claims in it. Casso says the government took all of his information and then fed it to Sammy Gravano, but that they were suppressing Casso's information on numerous other murders and drug deals that Sammy had never confessed to (and would obviously destroy his credibility on the stand). And that the Feds wanted Gotti and would do anything they could to get him.

He also says he was offered a five-year deal but the FBI never honored it, and he had nothing in writing.
Read that book This is true..


you might have read the book but id hardly use that as evidence as it being true as Carlo is a hack author and a known liar...

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