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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: thebigfella] #810470
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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
I never read anything about capone getting beat up in jail


there's this story of Al Capone getting into a fist fight with an inmate named Harmon Waley
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1970&dat=19360602&id=jQIiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qaMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1601,3262787

If the link doesn't work, just type into google "Capone Floored by Waley in Alcatraz Battle" and click on the first link.

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One of john gotti jr's crew member/ friend was killed in jail by his cell mate I think it was. Can't remember his name but there was a picture with gotti and his friends in their early days

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Originally Posted By: Tonytough
One of john gotti jr's crew member/ friend was killed in jail by his cell mate I think it was. Can't remember his name but there was a picture with gotti and his friends in their early days


that was joseph o'kane.

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I would like too hear about Pagans leader Steven Mondevergine whats going on with him in Prison. Why don't somebody in jail try knocking him on his ass?

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There's the story of Capone being stabbed in the showers. Well not really a story, it happened. Capone was almost defenseless. And by all accounts, the attack was pretty brutal.

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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #846385
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Have there ever been any recorded incidents of mobsters who have been attacked in prison who later take out revenge on the other prison when they are released?

E.g. If a mobster is only doing a 3-5 stretch and some guy who attacks him only has a short sentence as well, will there be some consequences to deal with when the assailant is outside?

I remember reading is Wiseguy that Paul Vario and friends had beef with a black gang in Lewisberg and he was scared to even leave his cell.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: NE1020] #846399
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Originally Posted By: NE1020


I remember reading is Wiseguy that Paul Vario and friends had beef with a black gang in Lewisberg and he was scared to even leave his cell.


not heard that story could you give some more details.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: blacksheep] #846414
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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
A lot of those mob guys stay the same even when they get older. Someone I know was with an old mob guy in the 80s at a bar in nyc. Andre the giant was at the same bar. The old mob guy was trying to pick a fight with andre and kept talking shit insisting that he prove he's real. The giant just walked out cuz he knew he would just snap that old man in half. But hearing stuff like that makes me think that no matter how old they are in prison, they'll still find a way to get in trouble


This sounds completely made up.

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Nah, if you're a wrestling fan, there's numerous stories of people trying to try Andre The Giant because of who he was and being a wrestler. He could also drink probably half of the members of all Five Families under the table...Well, I don't know about that, but he was a huge drinker and along with that,there are actually a bunch of tales of him being tried and provoked by others.

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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Nah, if you're a wrestling fan, there's numerous stories of people trying to try Andre The Giant because of who he was and being a wrestler. He could also drink probably half of the members of all Five Families under the table...Well, I don't know about that, but he was a huge drinker and along with that,there are actually a bunch of tales of him being tried and provoked by others.


I know that. But I cant see an old made guy trying to do that to prove himself. Just sounded silly. lol

But hey who knows, I wasn't there.

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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #846430
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in eastern prisons mafiosi are not isolated they have several people around them... recently there was a conflicts between italian mafia members and albanian inmates and the italians won because they outnumbered them

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I remember reading is Wiseguy that Paul Vario and friends had beef with a black gang in Lewisberg and he was scared to even leave his cell.


not heard that story could you give some more details.


It was only mentioned briefly. I remember it was just like the Italians were having trouble with the black inmates and it was getting so out of hand that Vario refused to leave his cell (I thought he was a tough guy?).

You could probably find it pretty easily in the Lewisberg segment in Wiseguy. Kinda surprising (or perhaps unbelievable) considering LCN's presence there.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #846598
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Article on Scalish Crime Family member Allie Calabrese, attacked in prison that resulted in death:


http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/with-friends-like-these/Content?oid=1488711


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A couple of stories regarding Chicago guys in prison.

In the Family Secrets trial it came out that Frank Calabrese Snr had a set-to in prison with Shorty LaMantia about the proper way you can and can't introduce yourself to other mobsters.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/mob/2007/07/the_humiliation_of_shorty.html

Also, in an interview a few years before he died Harry Aleman gave an interview in which he touched on life in a state prison for an older guy -

http://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2005/10/profile-harry-aleman.html

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Aleman once sent ripples of terror throughout the underworld, and segments of legitimate society, but his own fears appear much different. They don't seem to involve the joint because he says he has no real trouble, from guards or other inmates. People treat the older guys with some deference, he says, and he and the other old-timers are known as "pops" by the younger, mostly black prison population.

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Feech La Manna had some good advice about surviving prison lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14hc7RZNPbI

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Scarfo sr was crapping it at that Texas joint on gun charges. He had to hire two guys to watch his back

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Vincent papa of the lucchese's was stabbed to death in Atlanta 1977.
He was behind the huge French connection heroin theft from the NY police store rooms and word was leaked he had offered to become an informant to get out from under the dealing charges.
The Lucchese family had gangster, Herbie Sperling contract the AB who shanked him

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Originally Posted By: DiMaggio
Vincent papa of the lucchese's was stabbed to death in Atlanta 1977.
He was behind the huge French connection heroin theft from the NY police store rooms and word was leaked he had offered to become an informant to get out from under the dealing charges.
The Lucchese family had gangster, Herbie Sperling contract the AB who shanked him


It was actually some black inmates that killed him and one was convicted i think. Herbie sperling may have had his own reason for it though as well.

There were a few mob related murders in that place at the time.


William Rhett Zambito, 30, was reputedly a mob enforcer in Miami and a suspect in 10 murders. He agreed to testify in a narcotics case on condition he would be protected while serving time for drugs. Prison officials say they were never told, and Zambito was stabbed to death March 28, his first day at Atlanta.

The most recent victim, mob-connected drug smuggler Dominique Orsini, 55, was stabbed to death last April 10. A homemade knife lay nearby. A major figure in the celebrated "French Connection" case (like Vincent Papa), Orsini was serving 10 years on a drug-conspiracy charge. There are no suspects in the case.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #854876
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D'Arco had his son whack Di Lapi because Di Lapi stuck up for guys D'Arco was bullying in prison.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
D'Arco had his son whack Di Lapi because Di Lapi stuck up for guys D'Arco was bullying in prison.

D'Arco's a rat, and I couldn't care less if he got hit by lightning down in Florida.

Everyone, but everyone, knows where he is, they just don't care because they ended up with the power, and they'd never risk such a high profile hit anyway. There are a few old timers who don't hold a grudge with him and have actually visited him down there.

Anyway, as far as hitting DiLapi, he was a made guy who ran away from his responsibilities to "start a new life." Well, that'a not how it works. Fuck him. And for the record, it's true that Joey D'Arco got his button off that hit. But it was Amuso and Casso who gave the nod.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Anyway, as far as hitting DiLapi, he was a made guy who ran away from his responsibilities to "start a new life."

You mean, a life without crime, starting everything from the beginning like a "clean" person, not just moving his crime activities elsewhere? In this case, I disagree, I really don't understand the following quote:

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Well, that'a not how it works. Fuck him.


Any criminal who genuinely wants to get out of the dirt and start a honest life is far more "honorable" than all those "stand-up" guys who do life in prison keeping their mouths shut imo. Unless I misunderstood what you said about DiLapi.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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You're taking me wrong, Dwalin. I was being sarcastic. DiLapi didn't "change." He didn't want to "reinvent" himself. He ran away because he was scared.

Well, when you choose that life---and HE DID choose that life---you don't run away and hide. Period.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
You're taking me wrong, Dwalin. I was being sarcastic. DiLapi didn't "change." He didn't want to "reinvent" himself. He ran away because he was scared.

Well, when you choose that life---and HE DID choose that life---you don't run away and hide. Period.

Sorry then, I misunderstood. It's just sometimes it happens; just in the Irkutsk region in Siberia in Russia where I lived, there was a case when a gangster wanted out of the rackets to start a family; they tracked him down and killed him mutilating him with a screw-driver as a symbolic gesture of despising. I thought DiLapi's case was similar. Dmitriy Poroshin and Vyacheslav Gamernik were the ones who killed him I think (that's the thief-in-law Vladimir Tiurin's gang).


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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he's knot a mobster,but i thot this was interesting nontheless.like, a notorious serial killer got his a** kicked by an AB member



Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused

December 10, 1981

Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused Freeway Killer William Bonin, still suffering from a broken nose and two black eyes received in an apparent beating, were delayed again Thursday.

Superior Court Judge William Keene conferred with attorneys for both sides and then announced that because of Bonin's physical condition the defendant was unable to appear for final arguments and the trial was postponed until 10 a.m. PST Monday.

Later in the day the sheriff's department announced that it was closing its investigation into Bonin's injuries because the city attorney's decided not to file charges in the incident.

Deputy City Attorney Charles Goldenberg said there was insufficient evidence to file a battery charge.

Bonin has recanted his earlier claim that his nose was broken and his eyes blackened in a fall while in a courthouse lockup with another accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono and the reputed leader of a white supremacist prison gang.

Defense attorney William Charvet said Bonin, on trial for the homosexual torture slayings of a dozen youths, now refuses to make any statement about the injuries he received in a cell just before final arguments were to have begunTuesday.

But evidence suggests he was beaten by one of his two cellmates, John W. Stinson, a convicted murderer and reputed leader of the prison-spawned outlaw gang Aryan Brotherhood.

An unidentified deputy sheriff who was one of the first on the scene after the incident in the 14th floor holding cell said he noticed Stinson's knuckles were bruised.

'It looked like Stinson had tried to put him through the wall,' the deputy said. eek

Attorneys for the other inmate in the holding cell with Bonin, accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono Jr., said he claims he was dozing and does not know how Bonin was injured. lol lol

The 34-year-old Bonin's injuries forced postponement of final arguments in the Freeway Killer trial Tuesday and Judge Keene told jurors to return Thursday. But defense attorney Charvet asked for another postponment, arguing that his client's physical appearance may prejudice the jury against him.

Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. Bonin and Buono have reportedly gotten along well enough during the periods when they have shared the lockup cell during breaks in their trials.

But members of the Aryan Brotherhood have been responsible for past attacks on prisoners convicted of child molesting and homosexual crimes.

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I would like too hear about Pagans leader Steven Mondevergine whats going on with him in Prison. Why don't somebody in jail try knocking him on his ass?


An interesting character for sure. Wonder if he will have to do his full 10 and also if he's still a pagan?

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Originally Posted By: americafyeah
he's knot a mobster,but i thot this was interesting nontheless.like, a notorious serial killer got his a** kicked by an AB member



Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused

December 10, 1981

Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused Freeway Killer William Bonin, still suffering from a broken nose and two black eyes received in an apparent beating, were delayed again Thursday.

Superior Court Judge William Keene conferred with attorneys for both sides and then announced that because of Bonin's physical condition the defendant was unable to appear for final arguments and the trial was postponed until 10 a.m. PST Monday.

Later in the day the sheriff's department announced that it was closing its investigation into Bonin's injuries because the city attorney's decided not to file charges in the incident.

Deputy City Attorney Charles Goldenberg said there was insufficient evidence to file a battery charge.

Bonin has recanted his earlier claim that his nose was broken and his eyes blackened in a fall while in a courthouse lockup with another accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono and the reputed leader of a white supremacist prison gang.

Defense attorney William Charvet said Bonin, on trial for the homosexual torture slayings of a dozen youths, now refuses to make any statement about the injuries he received in a cell just before final arguments were to have begunTuesday.

But evidence suggests he was beaten by one of his two cellmates, John W. Stinson, a convicted murderer and reputed leader of the prison-spawned outlaw gang Aryan Brotherhood.

An unidentified deputy sheriff who was one of the first on the scene after the incident in the 14th floor holding cell said he noticed Stinson's knuckles were bruised.

'It looked like Stinson had tried to put him through the wall,' the deputy said. eek

Attorneys for the other inmate in the holding cell with Bonin, accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono Jr., said he claims he was dozing and does not know how Bonin was injured. lol lol

The 34-year-old Bonin's injuries forced postponement of final arguments in the Freeway Killer trial Tuesday and Judge Keene told jurors to return Thursday. But defense attorney Charvet asked for another postponment, arguing that his client's physical appearance may prejudice the jury against him.

Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. Bonin and Buono have reportedly gotten along well enough during the periods when they have shared the lockup cell during breaks in their trials.

But members of the Aryan Brotherhood have been responsible for past attacks on prisoners convicted of child molesting and homosexual crimes.


I think a lot of guards wouldn't mind too much if serial killing psychos like that get a good old fashioned beating from the the AB.


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he's knot a mobster,but i thot this was interesting nontheless.like, a notorious serial killer got his a** kicked by an AB member



Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused

December 10, 1981

Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused Freeway Killer William Bonin, still suffering from a broken nose and two black eyes received in an apparent beating, were delayed again Thursday.

Superior Court Judge William Keene conferred with attorneys for both sides and then announced that because of Bonin's physical condition the defendant was unable to appear for final arguments and the trial was postponed until 10 a.m. PST Monday.

Later in the day the sheriff's department announced that it was closing its investigation into Bonin's injuries because the city attorney's decided not to file charges in the incident.

Deputy City Attorney Charles Goldenberg said there was insufficient evidence to file a battery charge.

Bonin has recanted his earlier claim that his nose was broken and his eyes blackened in a fall while in a courthouse lockup with another accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono and the reputed leader of a white supremacist prison gang.

Defense attorney William Charvet said Bonin, on trial for the homosexual torture slayings of a dozen youths, now refuses to make any statement about the injuries he received in a cell just before final arguments were to have begunTuesday.

But evidence suggests he was beaten by one of his two cellmates, John W. Stinson, a convicted murderer and reputed leader of the prison-spawned outlaw gang Aryan Brotherhood.

An unidentified deputy sheriff who was one of the first on the scene after the incident in the 14th floor holding cell said he noticed Stinson's knuckles were bruised.

'It looked like Stinson had tried to put him through the wall,' the deputy said. eek

Attorneys for the other inmate in the holding cell with Bonin, accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono Jr., said he claims he was dozing and does not know how Bonin was injured. lol lol

The 34-year-old Bonin's injuries forced postponement of final arguments in the Freeway Killer trial Tuesday and Judge Keene told jurors to return Thursday. But defense attorney Charvet asked for another postponment, arguing that his client's physical appearance may prejudice the jury against him.

Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. Bonin and Buono have reportedly gotten along well enough during the periods when they have shared the lockup cell during breaks in their trials.

But members of the Aryan Brotherhood have been responsible for past attacks on prisoners convicted of child molesting and homosexual crimes.


I think a lot of guards wouldn't mind too much if serial killing psychos like that get a good old fashioned beating from the the AB.


Lol!!!!!! i agree. this sentence from the article is such BS:

"Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. "

i'm sure they had a hard time trying to say that with a straight face.pretty obvious they celled Bonin with an AB knowing what would happen. since Bonin was like a child torturer,and rapist they didn't give a s**t if he got hurt. plus,this was in the early 1980's before everything was like PC. but,i think stuf like this still happens today.do you? like,whenever an inmate is "suicided" it's usualy someone accused of a horrific crime. have you heard of WilliamBonin before?

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #915534
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Originally Posted By: americafyeah
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Originally Posted By: americafyeah
he's knot a mobster,but i thot this was interesting nontheless.like, a notorious serial killer got his a** kicked by an AB member



Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused

December 10, 1981

Final arguments in the mass murder trial of accused Freeway Killer William Bonin, still suffering from a broken nose and two black eyes received in an apparent beating, were delayed again Thursday.

Superior Court Judge William Keene conferred with attorneys for both sides and then announced that because of Bonin's physical condition the defendant was unable to appear for final arguments and the trial was postponed until 10 a.m. PST Monday.

Later in the day the sheriff's department announced that it was closing its investigation into Bonin's injuries because the city attorney's decided not to file charges in the incident.

Deputy City Attorney Charles Goldenberg said there was insufficient evidence to file a battery charge.

Bonin has recanted his earlier claim that his nose was broken and his eyes blackened in a fall while in a courthouse lockup with another accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono and the reputed leader of a white supremacist prison gang.

Defense attorney William Charvet said Bonin, on trial for the homosexual torture slayings of a dozen youths, now refuses to make any statement about the injuries he received in a cell just before final arguments were to have begunTuesday.

But evidence suggests he was beaten by one of his two cellmates, John W. Stinson, a convicted murderer and reputed leader of the prison-spawned outlaw gang Aryan Brotherhood.

An unidentified deputy sheriff who was one of the first on the scene after the incident in the 14th floor holding cell said he noticed Stinson's knuckles were bruised.

'It looked like Stinson had tried to put him through the wall,' the deputy said. eek

Attorneys for the other inmate in the holding cell with Bonin, accused Hillside Strangler Angelo Buono Jr., said he claims he was dozing and does not know how Bonin was injured. lol lol

The 34-year-old Bonin's injuries forced postponement of final arguments in the Freeway Killer trial Tuesday and Judge Keene told jurors to return Thursday. But defense attorney Charvet asked for another postponment, arguing that his client's physical appearance may prejudice the jury against him.

Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. Bonin and Buono have reportedly gotten along well enough during the periods when they have shared the lockup cell during breaks in their trials.

But members of the Aryan Brotherhood have been responsible for past attacks on prisoners convicted of child molesting and homosexual crimes.


I think a lot of guards wouldn't mind too much if serial killing psychos like that get a good old fashioned beating from the the AB.


Lol!!!!!! i agree. this sentence from the article is such BS:

"Deputies responsible for him said they had no reason to fear for Bonin's safety when they put him into the holding cell with Buono and Stinson. "

i'm sure they had a hard time trying to say that with a straight face.pretty obvious they celled Bonin with an AB knowing what would happen. since Bonin was like a child torturer,and rapist they didn't give a s**t if he got hurt. plus,this was in the early 1980's before everything was like PC. but,i think stuf like this still happens today.do you? like,whenever an inmate is "suicided" it's usualy someone accused of a horrific crime. have you heard of WilliamBonin before?


No, never heard of him, but looked him up and he was quite a sick puppy.. Jeffrey Dahmer's death is also a good example btw..


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