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The Big Balkan OC Thread
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05/02/17 12:25 PM
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I haven't really contributed anything to the forum since I joined , so I thought I might as well rectify that by kicking off a thread on Balkan organized crime groups . I"ll start off by posting a link to the documentary called " Once Upon a Time in the East " : https://putlockers.ca/once-upon-a-time-in-the-east-2011-full-movie-putlocker-megashare9.html It deals with the topic of organized crime in 1990s Bulgaria as well as Bulgarian organized crime in general . Pretty fascinating that such an obscure country would generate such formidable criminal organizations .
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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05/18/17 01:42 PM
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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05/19/17 03:16 PM
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Thanks man. Where you from? USA
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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05/20/17 04:56 AM
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In capital of Serbia,Belgrade a war is going on between groups,over control of security at night clubs and drugs,media is not reporting anything about it,police arrested few guys and media said they wanted to kill police chief,which is total bullshit Are there any crews left from the old infamous territories such as Vozdovac, Zvezdara or Zemun or right now the main crews are from New Belgrade?
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Zemun and Zvezdara not really,Vozdovac yes,most of the guys from 90's are still alive today: Vozdovac when they were the most powerful crew in Belgrade,only 2 on far left and guy in middle are dead.Three guys on far right are leading Vozdovac today,2 of them are in prison for torturing some guy. Today the most powerful crew in the city is connected to clans from Montenegro,they are responsible for almost every murder that happened in Belgrade in last 2-3 years,one of them was Sale Mutavi who got killed last year in October. If you are interested about it more,pictures or whatever i can write you in PM,i know them personally don't want to get in trouble for writing here lol
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Zemun and Zvezdara not really,Vozdovac yes,most of the guys from 90's are still alive today: Vozdovac when they were the most powerful crew in Belgrade,only 2 on far left and guy in middle are dead.Three guys on far right are leading Vozdovac today,2 of them are in prison for torturing some guy. Today the most powerful crew in the city is connected to clans from Montenegro,they are responsible for almost every murder that happened in Belgrade in last 2-3 years,one of them was Sale Mutavi who got killed last year in October. If you are interested about it more,pictures or whatever i can write you in PM,i know them personally don't want to get in trouble for writing here lol Thanks for the cool info and also the great picture Strax. To tell you the truth I personally have much respect for the old guard, mostly because of the stories i heard regarding Gishka for example. My older brother once knew a guy who met Gishka somewhere on vacation during the early or mod 1980's since i dont remember the years in which he spent most of his time in jail. I never had a gangster ever before for an idol, but when i was a kid his stories made me form a great picture in my mind for the guy. I belive that he was a real robinhood and also a real patriot, not that "Arkan" or "Legija" type of an individual. I mean he also worked for the secret government but somehow he was different. A true Serbian. I know the feeling since my grandfather was born in Velika Plana and grew up in Belgrade and he was almost the same type of individual lol
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Which Balkan groups are at the top of the chain right now ? Is it safe to assume that the Albanian and Serbian outfits are still at the top ? Also are there any proper Croatian outfits ? I mean I've never read about Croatian gangsters before news came of the bust linked above .
Albanians and clans from Kosovo are on top,followed by the Serbian clans, you have some really powerful and well connected people in Belgrade. Bulgarian clans are also pretty powerful,not like they were before,but still very powerful
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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03/26/18 04:37 PM
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Which Balkan groups are at the top of the chain right now ? Is it safe to assume that the Albanian and Serbian outfits are still at the top ? Also are there any proper Croatian outfits ? I mean I've never read about Croatian gangsters before news came of the bust linked above .
Albanians and clans from Kosovo are on top,followed by the Serbian clans, you have some really powerful and well connected people in Belgrade. Bulgarian clans are also pretty powerful,not like they were before,but still very powerful Thanks for the answer . By the way do organized crime groups from the Balkans tend to be ethnically exclusive or are some fairly inclusive with respect to having a multi ethnic membership ? In other words are there any Balkan based organized crime groups that have ( for example ) Albanian and Serbian members ? Or is such a thing unheard of ?
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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06/19/18 11:33 AM
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Hey strax, have you heard about this murder?
On 3 April 2003 the Bosnian Mrki (alias of Fahrudin Agusi), 39, was shot dead in Rotterdam. He was bouncer of the very popular club Baja. The murder was never solved and the reason is a mystery. Jocic was a friend of Mrki, a relationship that for some unknown reason would later have cooled down somewhat. His own bars and restaurants Ponte Rosso (café) and Mille Grazie (pizzeria) at the Bentinckplein in Rotterdam-Blijdorp were a meeting place for compatriots to get work, money or a home. Mrki got a relationship among others with the singer Goca Bozinovska, known in Serbia.
His lawyer Eric Deen remembers: He came to my office after that shelling. He really had no idea who it was. However, the name of Holleeder and an amount of one million were mentioned. Remember that Holleeder was not as in the picture as later. But I think that extortion and Holleeder have been rejected. And Jocic, I also heard that name. There would have been some sort of disagreement, but I do not know details.
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Never even heard about this guy ? Do u have any more info about him ? Goca Bozinovska was married to Zoran Sijan,powerful member of Surcinski Klan,he was killed in 1999. I never knew she was in relationship with this guy. Edit: even when i search on internet,i get only dutch articles like this one: https://www.crimesite.nl/de-mysterieuze-liquidatie-van-de-baja-portier-1/ . What does it say ?
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Never even heard about this guy ? Do u have any more info about him ? Goca Bozinovska was married to Zoran Sijan,powerful member of Surcinski Klan,he was killed in 1999. I never knew she was in relationship with this guy. Edit: even when i search on internet,i get only dutch articles like this one: https://www.crimesite.nl/de-mysterieuze-liquidatie-van-de-baja-portier-1/ . What does it say ? Mrki was born in Tuzla, he was convicted of extortion in Germany. He was sentenced to 2.5 years in 1989 in Hanover. Mrki knew some (big) names from the underworld. He appears in the case Kruimeltje, the liquidation of former boxer John Smit in 1995. A Chechen hitman killed Smit on the toilet of café Kruimeltje on the Oostplein in Kralingen. Another Dutch kick boxer, the hit man and some Yugoslavs have been convicted for this murder. Mrki appeared as an interpreter in the interrogation of suspect Dragan V. He was never regarded as a suspect in this case, but he did know several people involved.
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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A prominent Belgrade lawyer, who had previously helped to defend Slobodan Milosevic, strongman of Serbia, was killed by gunshots, in an ambush in gangster style, in front of his home.
Dragoslav Ognjanovic , 57, was shot dead in front of a condominium in the Novi Beograd district and his 26-year-old son was injured in his right arm. The Ministry of the Interior confirms this in a statement.
As a criminal lawyer, Ognjanovic served in the early 2000s in the legal team that helped defend Milosevic in his war crimes trial before the United Nations tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague. Milosevic died in the court's detention unit in 2006 before a verdict was reached.
Over the years, Ognjanovic has also defended some of the main characters of the Serbian criminal world. Several prominent members of the Serbian and Montenegrin organized crime networks have been killed in Belgrade in the last two years in what the police describe as a war on the illegal drugs market.
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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08/01/18 05:58 AM
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Strax, Luka Bojovic is described by dutch justice as the alleged 'henchman' of Willem Holleeder. He is,his man carried out murders on orders by Holleeder. There are police wiretaps that prove it. Luka Bojovic is losing support right now , Dragoslav Ognjanovic the lawyer that defended him,got killed only because he is supporter of Bojovic Family. There is ongoing feud between Bojovic and Saranovic(Montenegro) family. People killed to Luka Bojovic so far:Nikola Bojovic(His brother),Luka Äurović,Rade Rakonjac,Dragoslav Miloradović,SiniÅ¡a Milić.
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Re: The Big Balkan OC Thread
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Strax, Luka Bojovic is described by dutch justice as the alleged 'henchman' of Willem Holleeder. He is,his man carried out murders on orders by Holleeder. There are police wiretaps that prove it. Luka Bojovic is losing support right now , Dragoslav Ognjanovic the lawyer that defended him,got killed only because he is supporter of Bojovic Family. There is ongoing feud between Bojovic and Saranovic(Montenegro) family. People killed to Luka Bojovic so far:Nikola Bojovic(His brother),Luka Äurović,Rade Rakonjac,Dragoslav Miloradović,SiniÅ¡a Milić. Thanks, doesn't help he's in a spanish prison far away from the stuff happening in Belgrade or Amsterdam. I read his father was a visual artist from Montenegro.
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