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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Gallo get 10 y for extortion in 1961 and was in attica prison when colombo say to the commission that Magliocco & co try to kill gambino and the commission made him boss. After gallo come out and started another war,colombo made too heat with the italian american league and Gambino used gallo ties to the blacks for kill colombo. After used him gambino let the colombo men kill gallo in 1972. At the end is the same story of greed,power and betrayl. Oh wow i didn't know gambino was involved that much, so at the end its just show how much smart was carlo gambino to do that. Thanks furio ! Personally I think that Joe Gallo would be a better boss than Persico but Gallo maybe understand or maybe not,of was a Gambino's puppet; who know, if gallo would made a deal with gambino maybe should be the boss but prefered to be free and died for this.
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Gallo get 10 y for extortion in 1961 and was in attica prison when colombo say to the commission that Magliocco & co try to kill gambino and the commission made him boss. After gallo come out and started another war,colombo made too heat with the italian american league and Gambino used gallo ties to the blacks for kill colombo. After used him gambino let the colombo men kill gallo in 1972. At the end is the same story of greed,power and betrayl. Oh wow i didn't know gambino was involved that much, so at the end its just show how much smart was carlo gambino to do that. Thanks furio ! Personally I think that Joe Gallo would be a better boss than Persico but Gallo maybe understand or maybe not,of was a Gambino's puppet; who know, if gallo would made a deal with gambino maybe should be the boss but prefered to be free and died for this. He was a psycho right ?
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Colombo was betting on the peace deal he made with Larry Gallo, pretty much it was "I am the new boss. I won't demand that much from you, only the monthly tribute. You end this war, and I will make you a Capo, with RH being your territory and there will be no retaliation on your people as long as there is none on the others. I want this to be one big happy Bogota." That is not what was actually said, but it sums up how it went down.
Joe got out of prison, however he hanged around celebrities and musicians, along with his old crew. So Joe was not that much in LCN affairs, but still had his fingers here and there. His antics and being in the public eye was hurting Colombos and Italian American League image. Colombo sent for Gallo about it, and at that meeting, Colombo gave Gallo a thousand dollars as a late get out of prison gift. Gallo refused it and said he deserved more. Colombo dismissed Gallo, and Joe started to go after card games, dice games, legitimate businesses, and whatever else Colombo people had going. Colombo did not fear Gallo would kill him as even though Joe Gallo was not at the peace agreement, Albert Gallo was, and if Joe made a move on Colombo, Albert, Punchy, and John would have been killed as they were part of the peace agreement.
Joe Gallo is often said to be behind the assassination attempt on Colombo, but it was actually Tony Abbatemarco, son of Frank Abbatemarco,.who had many stones to grind with both Colombo and Gallo.
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Colombo was betting on the peace deal he made with Larry Gallo, pretty much it was "I am the new boss. I won't demand that much from you, only the monthly tribute. You end this war, and I will make you a Capo, with RH being your territory and there will be no retaliation on your people as long as there is none on the others. I want this to be one big happy Bogota." That is not what was actually said, but it sums up how it went down.
Joe got out of prison, however he hanged around celebrities and musicians, along with his old crew. So Joe was not that much in LCN affairs, but still had his fingers here and there. His antics and being in the public eye was hurting Colombos and Italian American League image. Colombo sent for Gallo about it, and at that meeting, Colombo gave Gallo a thousand dollars as a late get out of prison gift. Gallo refused it and said he deserved more. Colombo dismissed Gallo, and Joe started to go after card games, dice games, legitimate businesses, and whatever else Colombo people had going. Colombo did not fear Gallo would kill him as even though Joe Gallo was not at the peace agreement, Albert Gallo was, and if Joe made a move on Colombo, Albert, Punchy, and John would have been killed as they were part of the peace agreement.
Joe Gallo is often said to be behind the assassination attempt on Colombo, but it was actually Tony Abbatemarco, son of Frank Abbatemarco,.who had many stones to grind with both Colombo and Gallo. So if tony was behind the colombo assassination so why was gallo killed a year later ?
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Colombo was betting on the peace deal he made with Larry Gallo, pretty much it was "I am the new boss. I won't demand that much from you, only the monthly tribute. You end this war, and I will make you a Capo, with RH being your territory and there will be no retaliation on your people as long as there is none on the others. I want this to be one big happy Bogota." That is not what was actually said, but it sums up how it went down.
Joe got out of prison, however he hanged around celebrities and musicians, along with his old crew. So Joe was not that much in LCN affairs, but still had his fingers here and there. His antics and being in the public eye was hurting Colombos and Italian American League image. Colombo sent for Gallo about it, and at that meeting, Colombo gave Gallo a thousand dollars as a late get out of prison gift. Gallo refused it and said he deserved more. Colombo dismissed Gallo, and Joe started to go after card games, dice games, legitimate businesses, and whatever else Colombo people had going. Colombo did not fear Gallo would kill him as even though Joe Gallo was not at the peace agreement, Albert Gallo was, and if Joe made a move on Colombo, Albert, Punchy, and John would have been killed as they were part of the peace agreement.
Joe Gallo is often said to be behind the assassination attempt on Colombo, but it was actually Tony Abbatemarco, son of Frank Abbatemarco,.who had many stones to grind with both Colombo and Gallo. So if tony was behind the colombo assassination so why was gallo killed a year later ? Gallo was friend of nicky Barnes that helped him to find a black idiot that think that he will kill a mafia boss for 100K and survive. Gallo was killed become continue to fight against the colombo family and was so stupid to celebrate his birthday in little italy ! Come on you're at war and go to in little italy (that was the mob neighborhood not a joke like now) anyway with gallo dead and the books open the last gallo crew members Basciano and Cutrone continue to fight and was killed in 1975.
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Here the complete gallo members list,I find nothing on the last name http://gangsterreport.com/3990/Joe Gallo – murdered in 1972 by Colombo gunmen Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Larry Gallo – died of cancer in 1968 Frank "Punchy" Illiano – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Nicholas Bianco – transferred to Patriarca family in 1963, died of natural causes in 1994 Vic Amuso – transferred to Lucchese family, serving life in prison Joseph "Joe Pesh" Luparelli – entered witness protection program in 1972, current location unknown Joe Gioelli – murdered in 1961 by Profaci gunmen Carmine "the Snake" Persico – Colombo family boss, serving life in prison John Cutrone – led breakaway faction from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Gerry Basciano – seceded from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Steve Cirrilo – murdered in 1974 by Cutrone gunmen Joseph Cardiello – defected to Profaci, murdered by Gallo gunmen on December 10, 1963 Louis Mariani – murdered by Profaci gunmen on December 10, 1963 Leonard "Big Lenny"Dello (1927-2009) remained with Colombos John Commarato (1924-) remained with Colombos Alfonso Serantonio Joseph Yancone Eugene LaGana Frank Balzano Sergio "SergForce" Gallo
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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Here the complete gallo members list,I find nothing on the last name http://gangsterreport.com/3990/Joe Gallo – murdered in 1972 by Colombo gunmen Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Larry Gallo – died of cancer in 1968 Frank "Punchy" Illiano – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Nicholas Bianco – transferred to Patriarca family in 1963, died of natural causes in 1994 Vic Amuso – transferred to Lucchese family, serving life in prison Joseph "Joe Pesh" Luparelli – entered witness protection program in 1972, current location unknown Joe Gioelli – murdered in 1961 by Profaci gunmen Carmine "the Snake" Persico – Colombo family boss, serving life in prison John Cutrone – led breakaway faction from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Gerry Basciano – seceded from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Steve Cirrilo – murdered in 1974 by Cutrone gunmen Joseph Cardiello – defected to Profaci, murdered by Gallo gunmen on December 10, 1963 Louis Mariani – murdered by Profaci gunmen on December 10, 1963 Leonard "Big Lenny"Dello (1927-2009) remained with Colombos John Commarato (1924-) remained with Colombos Alfonso Serantonio Joseph Yancone Eugene LaGana Frank Balzano Sergio "SergForce" Gallo They are all soldiers or associates and soldiers in the that list ?
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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03/12/17 08:29 AM
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Here the complete gallo members list,I find nothing on the last name http://gangsterreport.com/3990/Joe Gallo – murdered in 1972 by Colombo gunmen Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Larry Gallo – died of cancer in 1968 Frank "Punchy" Illiano – transferred to Genovese family in 1975 Nicholas Bianco – transferred to Patriarca family in 1963, died of natural causes in 1994 Vic Amuso – transferred to Lucchese family, serving life in prison Joseph "Joe Pesh" Luparelli – entered witness protection program in 1972, current location unknown Joe Gioelli – murdered in 1961 by Profaci gunmen Carmine "the Snake" Persico – Colombo family boss, serving life in prison John Cutrone – led breakaway faction from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Gerry Basciano – seceded from Gallo crew, murdered in 1976 by unknown gunmen Steve Cirrilo – murdered in 1974 by Cutrone gunmen Joseph Cardiello – defected to Profaci, murdered by Gallo gunmen on December 10, 1963 Louis Mariani – murdered by Profaci gunmen on December 10, 1963 Leonard "Big Lenny"Dello (1927-2009) remained with Colombos John Commarato (1924-) remained with Colombos Alfonso Serantonio Joseph Yancone Eugene LaGana Frank Balzano Sergio "SergForce" Gallo They are all soldiers or associates and soldiers in the that list ? Apart gallo brothers there was all associates.
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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I don't understand why the Abbatemarco' son doesn't choose the gallo side. Damn Profaci ordered to kill his father. Joe Profaci ordered it, but it was the Gallo brothers that carried it out, allegedly Joe Gioelli was the triggerman. The only made members in the Gallo crew were Larry Gallo Joe Gallo Joe Gioelli John Cutrone There other members included Tony Abbatemarco, but they were transferred once Frank Shots was murdered, or switched to a different crew before the start of the Gallo war. Joe Gioelli and John Cutrone were made in 1957. Joe Gioelli were the Gallo brothers muscle. There were a lot of associates, who would later be made in the Colombo and other Families when the books would opened up. The Persico brothers were made but switched during the war, Tony Abbatemarco was with the Gallo brothers during the first Gallo war, but did not join them the second time, but started the second war.
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Re: Why joe colombo didn't killed gallo first ?
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you can add sal mangiamelli, steve boriello and his brother bob, what frank shots Abby Shots. Frank DiMatteo, his father Ricky, whom ended up being inducted into the DeCavs. Bobby "Roy Roy" Darrow, etc. There's a couple more that weren't included on that list.
I searched what happened to the other gallo crew members: Mangiamelli-Salvatore Lefty 1929- colombos Bartholomew "Bobby" Boriello (March 31, 1944 - April 13, 1991) gambino Steven Borriello gambino associate ??? Frank DiMatteo,left the life and wrote the book The President Street Boys - Growing Up Mafia ... Ricky “Silverfox” DiMatteo,a contract hitmen who worked for multiple crime families, who survived to retire a life after the ‘business’. Bobby “Bobby Darrow” Bongiovi b.1936 colombo soldier get life in 1973 Rosario "Roy Roy" Musico Preston Gaietano ??? http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/puparo-presents-the-roaring-5
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