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Re: Mafia Books
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12/12/16 01:28 PM
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Mr. Lamothe If you are who you say you are; then I am honored to be communicating with you. Co-signed 100% Not kissing ass here, Sixth Family is probably my favorite mob book after Raab's Five Families..
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Re: Mafia Books
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12/12/16 02:26 PM
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BobbyPazzo
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@ Sinatra
Marlo's last scene on the Wire, where he gets cut and taste the blood.... One of my favorite scenes in anything ever
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: BobbyPazzo]
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12/14/16 07:03 PM
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Mentioned 2 my wife about a month ago that i was gettin' low on reading material, & she purchased a few that she knew i didn't have..(she cares enough 2 keep track of my hobbies,a good woman)...anyways, I just got through (Donnie Brasco: Unfinished Business)..I was behooved that i didn't know this existed ,the copyright 2007,,me of all ppl..i was mad @ myself 4 not keeping up or missing this one ..I'm a Pistone fan & pride myself on my knowledge of early bonanno yrs. Thought it was not bad, even though it rehashed some stories everyone knows,but liked the little inside stories(like when he had 2 meet Lefty @ 12:00 midnite in a deserted bar) & the topics on working w/ Johnny Depp & Al Pacino.. anybody get 2 this piece of material?? any thoughts???
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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Re: Mafia Books
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#901802
12/15/16 10:54 AM
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SinatraClub
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It shouldn't be THAT much of a reach that De Meo would drink blood.
If he wasn't in the mafia he probably would have been a serial killer.
He was heading down that route before the mob gave him an outlet for it.
Name any mobster and 9 times out of 10 they have never even personally got their hands dirty on a hit, and if they did, it was either the impersonal method of shooting someone or as part of a hit team.
De Meo dismembered bodies, and by all accounts he liked doing it.
They used to casually eat slices of pizza while they sawed an arm off.
Come to think of it, Chris Rosenberg was another budding serial killer whose homicidal tendencies were harnessed by the mob. Good points Moe. What I remember reading, I think in MM, is that the Demeo crew would be eating pizza while wearing surgical gloves spattered with blood. I'm pretty sure but feel free to fact check that one. Nah, Murder Machine doesn't state this either. It says they ate Pizza while there'd be bodies draining in the bathroom shower. And I'll tell you why they gave him the nickname Dracula, or atleast why I think. It says in Murder Machine clear as day, that while they all murdered people, only a handful of the crew members actually partook and enjoyed doing so, in the dismembering of bodies. So while you and Moe claim that despite it not actually being stated in the book, that it wouldn't be that much of a reach that DeMeo & Guglielmo "drank blood". Cool, and don't confuse any of this as me trying to say "You're wrong", you might be right for all I know. At the same time, why would it be so hard to think that crew members gave him the name simply due to his fondness for blood. And that doesn't mean he bathed in it, but that he simply liked doing the dirty stuff, like dismembering bodies, and cleaning blood off his floors? I keep seeing this word "alluded" to defend this "blood ritual" thing, thats not really proof.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: SinatraClub]
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12/15/16 11:25 AM
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Moe_Tilden
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It shouldn't be THAT much of a reach that De Meo would drink blood.
If he wasn't in the mafia he probably would have been a serial killer.
He was heading down that route before the mob gave him an outlet for it.
Name any mobster and 9 times out of 10 they have never even personally got their hands dirty on a hit, and if they did, it was either the impersonal method of shooting someone or as part of a hit team.
De Meo dismembered bodies, and by all accounts he liked doing it.
They used to casually eat slices of pizza while they sawed an arm off.
Come to think of it, Chris Rosenberg was another budding serial killer whose homicidal tendencies were harnessed by the mob. Good points Moe. What I remember reading, I think in MM, is that the Demeo crew would be eating pizza while wearing surgical gloves spattered with blood. I'm pretty sure but feel free to fact check that one. Nah, Murder Machine doesn't state this either. It says they ate Pizza while there'd be bodies draining in the bathroom shower. And I'll tell you why they gave him the nickname Dracula, or atleast why I think. It says in Murder Machine clear as day, that while they all murdered people, only a handful of the crew members actually partook and enjoyed doing so, in the dismembering of bodies. So while you and Moe claim that despite it not actually being stated in the book, that it wouldn't be that much of a reach that DeMeo & Guglielmo "drank blood". Cool, and don't confuse any of this as me trying to say "You're wrong", you might be right for all I know. At the same time, why would it be so hard to think that crew members gave him the name simply due to his fondness for blood. And that doesn't mean he bathed in it, but that he simply liked doing the dirty stuff, like dismembering bodies, and cleaning blood off his floors? I keep seeing this word "alluded" to defend this "blood ritual" thing, thats not really proof. That doesn't disprove what you highlighted in bold either. Joe Coffey who led the OCTF said Roy De Meo drank blood. He knows more than you do. Hard as it is to believe.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: SinatraClub]
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12/15/16 11:50 AM
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Alfa Romeo
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It shouldn't be THAT much of a reach that De Meo would drink blood.
If he wasn't in the mafia he probably would have been a serial killer.
He was heading down that route before the mob gave him an outlet for it.
Name any mobster and 9 times out of 10 they have never even personally got their hands dirty on a hit, and if they did, it was either the impersonal method of shooting someone or as part of a hit team.
De Meo dismembered bodies, and by all accounts he liked doing it.
They used to casually eat slices of pizza while they sawed an arm off.
Come to think of it, Chris Rosenberg was another budding serial killer whose homicidal tendencies were harnessed by the mob. Good points Moe. What I remember reading, I think in MM, is that the Demeo crew would be eating pizza while wearing surgical gloves spattered with blood. I'm pretty sure but feel free to fact check that one. Nah, Murder Machine doesn't state this either. It says they ate Pizza while there'd be bodies draining in the bathroom shower. And I'll tell you why they gave him the nickname Dracula, or atleast why I think. It says in Murder Machine clear as day, that while they all murdered people, only a handful of the crew members actually partook and enjoyed doing so, in the dismembering of bodies. So while you and Moe claim that despite it not actually being stated in the book, that it wouldn't be that much of a reach that DeMeo & Guglielmo "drank blood". Cool, and don't confuse any of this as me trying to say "You're wrong", you might be right for all I know. At the same time, why would it be so hard to think that crew members gave him the name simply due to his fondness for blood. And that doesn't mean he bathed in it, but that he simply liked doing the dirty stuff, like dismembering bodies, and cleaning blood off his floors? I keep seeing this word "alluded" to defend this "blood ritual" thing, thats not really proof. You're right Sinatra, I (we) really don't have proof. But keeping an open mind about your theory for the nickname Dracula...it doesn't quite add up for me. I could see them calling Guglielmo "Dracula" for doing the dirty work if he was in fact the main one or one of the main ones doing the clean up that they would do after a killing in that apartment. But he wasn't the only one involved in that, if at all. I think maybe it was Henry Borelli that wasn't big on clean up and using knives and whatnot. He was more of a trigger man and didn't like getting his hands dirty. The rest of them were into it and had no problem with that, so far as we know. So what we have here is a group of killers, who all killed, and who all participated in the clean up...but they called one guy Dracula.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: hoodlum]
#901822
12/15/16 12:13 PM
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Mentioned 2 my wife about a month ago that i was gettin' low on reading material, & she purchased a few that she knew i didn't have..(she cares enough 2 keep track of my hobbies,a good woman)...anyways, I just got through (Donnie Brasco: Unfinished Business)..I was behooved that i didn't know this existed ,the copyright 2007,,me of all ppl..i was mad @ myself 4 not keeping up or missing this one ..I'm a Pistone fan & pride myself on my knowledge of early bonanno yrs. Thought it was not bad, even though it rehashed some stories everyone knows,but liked the little inside stories(like when he had 2 meet Lefty @ 12:00 midnite in a deserted bar) & the topics on working w/ Johnny Depp & Al Pacino.. anybody get 2 this piece of material?? any thoughts??? I read that part, the part where he had to meet Lefty in a bar to explain himself, and there was maybe another guy guarding the door so he couldn't run. That was awful. You think about pictures of Lefty, how he looked like an android with unblinking eyes. In a situation like that, Lefty must have been terrifying. Joe Pistone really risked everything to do his job.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
#901861
12/15/16 06:02 PM
12/15/16 06:02 PM
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If DeMeo did that he's just as stupid as he is fucking gross. 1970's... Hello AIDS much?!?!?! Let me wash down...
"Yum lemme wash down this slice of Lenny's Pizza with a big gulp'a Chris Rosenberg's AIDS blood! So good I can just feel my immune system suckin it up makes the crust all soggy." Jesus. Now THAT woulda been some nice Greg Scarpa style karma for Roy.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: FrankMazola]
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12/17/16 11:04 AM
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Moe_Tilden
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If DeMeo did that he's just as stupid as he is fucking gross. 1970's... Hello AIDS much?!?!?! Let me wash down...
"Yum lemme wash down this slice of Lenny's Pizza with a big gulp'a Chris Rosenberg's AIDS blood! So good I can just feel my immune system suckin it up makes the crust all soggy." Jesus. Now THAT woulda been some nice Greg Scarpa style karma for Roy. I thought the AIDS panic started in the 80's?
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
#902161
12/18/16 10:28 PM
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If DeMeo did that he's just as stupid as he is fucking gross. 1970's... Hello AIDS much?!?!?! Let me wash down...
"Yum lemme wash down this slice of Lenny's Pizza with a big gulp'a Chris Rosenberg's AIDS blood! So good I can just feel my immune system suckin it up makes the crust all soggy." Jesus. Now THAT woulda been some nice Greg Scarpa style karma for Roy. I thought the AIDS panic started in the 80's? moe, aids epidemic started in 1979, by the Haitian boat people who came here during the carter administration. check it out.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
#902867
12/27/16 11:21 AM
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SinatraClub
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It shouldn't be THAT much of a reach that De Meo would drink blood.
If he wasn't in the mafia he probably would have been a serial killer.
He was heading down that route before the mob gave him an outlet for it.
Name any mobster and 9 times out of 10 they have never even personally got their hands dirty on a hit, and if they did, it was either the impersonal method of shooting someone or as part of a hit team.
De Meo dismembered bodies, and by all accounts he liked doing it.
They used to casually eat slices of pizza while they sawed an arm off.
Come to think of it, Chris Rosenberg was another budding serial killer whose homicidal tendencies were harnessed by the mob. Good points Moe. What I remember reading, I think in MM, is that the Demeo crew would be eating pizza while wearing surgical gloves spattered with blood. I'm pretty sure but feel free to fact check that one. Nah, Murder Machine doesn't state this either. It says they ate Pizza while there'd be bodies draining in the bathroom shower. And I'll tell you why they gave him the nickname Dracula, or atleast why I think. It says in Murder Machine clear as day, that while they all murdered people, only a handful of the crew members actually partook and enjoyed doing so, in the dismembering of bodies. So while you and Moe claim that despite it not actually being stated in the book, that it wouldn't be that much of a reach that DeMeo & Guglielmo "drank blood". Cool, and don't confuse any of this as me trying to say "You're wrong", you might be right for all I know. At the same time, why would it be so hard to think that crew members gave him the name simply due to his fondness for blood. And that doesn't mean he bathed in it, but that he simply liked doing the dirty stuff, like dismembering bodies, and cleaning blood off his floors? I keep seeing this word "alluded" to defend this "blood ritual" thing, thats not really proof. That doesn't disprove what you highlighted in bold either. Joe Coffey who led the OCTF said Roy De Meo drank blood. He knows more than you do. Hard as it is to believe. Joe Coffey is a known embellisher of stories , so it doesnt matter what crime force he led, Moe. And I do research on some of these things after I hear them , as do others , which is why its perfectly fine to question Joe Coffey , as others have done also . But eat up his words if you want .
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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12/28/16 12:02 PM
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Joe Coffey is a known embellisher of stories , so it doesnt matter what crime force he led, Moe. And I do research on some of these things after I hear them , as do others , which is why its perfectly fine to question Joe Coffey , as others have done also . But eat up his words if you want. If you take the word of people who lie, cheat and steal for a living over a respected detective then you are quite simply a moron.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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01/02/17 08:48 AM
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SinatraClub
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Because they say bullshit and come up with the silliest , most bullshit stories of their lives of crime fighting. Like Joe Pistone and the myth that he was so close to being made. How, Sway, How? Considering literally everyone outside of the Sonny Black crew suspected him of being an UC? You think Galante or Rastelli wouldve held a making ceremony for him? Especially Rastelli, with Massino having his ear and all, and Massino being among those who knew he wasnt right. Balistreri cut contact with Lefty, Sonny Black, and that entire regime because he suspected Pistone of being a rat. People like him, tend to overstate their importance within that world. Also shows you the type of brokesters Sonny Black and his guys were, they were desperate for a money maker, that they were willing to look past the obvious, like his silly, unrealistic, non-Italian name of Donnie Brasco, just to make some bucks and enhance that crews little sphere of influence.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
#903416
01/02/17 09:39 AM
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Are you honestly trying to say you know more than Joseph Pistone and Joe Coffey? ![lol lol](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/lol.gif) Guys who have been around these mobsters. As opposed to someone who has probably never left his mother's basement, like you. Give us a break. I read mob books too, Sinatra, but I don't claim to know more than I do.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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01/02/17 10:56 AM
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Are you honestly trying to say you know more than Joseph Pistone and Joe Coffey? ![lol lol](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/lol.gif) Guys who have been around these mobsters. As opposed to someone who has probably never left his mother's basement, like you. Give us a break. I read mob books too, Sinatra, but I don't claim to know more than I do. I agree Moe, he thinks he knows everything.
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